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Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« on: January 27, 2006, 07:34:19 PM »
Hi amiga fans! I have a problem: i have buyed a 2.5 Hard disk for my AMIGA 1200. I have mounted it, and the LED of the Hard-disk turns on the first time! But this is not effective with the formatting and the partitioning. I'm trying to format the harddrive using the Workbenck 3.1 "Install Disk". But there are problems: when i use "HDSetup" tool, (Hard-disk type setted 0, IDE A1200HD) there exit a system request which advert me: "Not a DOS disk in device HD0". Why??? The hard-disk is formatted with use for a PC but i want format it for the AMIGA 1200.

The AMIGA 1200 is this:
68020 Processor
3,0 ROM, 39,106 Kickstart
2 MB RAM
AGA Chipset
And the hard-disk 6GB (Using HDToolbox it reveals 5869MB ca total)

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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2006, 07:40:46 PM »
OS 3.1's filesystem can only address a maximum of 4GB, you will have to use another filesystem such as SmartFileSystem or upgrade to Amiga OS 3.5 or AmigaOS 3.9 but as you have a stock Amiga, the latter upgrades need extra memory and a CD drive too..
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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2006, 07:50:18 PM »
and with this? i can partition it using HDToolbox. Or not? I guess the problem is also this: the AMIGA can't access to hard drive because it is formatted for the PC. Dosen't appear "DH0:NDOS". You thing if i use a hard disk of 1.4Gb i can resolve?

And, the LHA pack containing SmartFileSystem Autosetup the harddisk also if isn't prepared for archive? (i use workbench on floppy disk)
AMIGA 1200 with
- External FD Drive
- 527 Mb HD drive

I wish power up my AMIGA:
- AmigaOS 3.9 (upgrading wit CDROM drive, Blizard 1230IV and 56k modem)
 

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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2006, 08:00:49 PM »
Did you format the partitions?  After you create the partitions in HDToolBox, save changes and exit, you still have to format them.  Just chick on the DH0:NDOS icon and select Format Disk from the Icon menu.

Also, because of the problem mentioned above, make sure to keep the partitions below 4GB.
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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2006, 08:07:32 PM »
This is the problem: no before and no after executing this action appear the icon: "DH0:NDOS"
AMIGA 1200 with
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- 527 Mb HD drive

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- AmigaOS 3.9 (upgrading wit CDROM drive, Blizard 1230IV and 56k modem)
 

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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2006, 08:17:40 PM »
Partition the Drive into 2 partitions, 4GB for HD0 (or DH0) and 2GB for the second partition HD1 (or HD1)

Save changes using HDTOOLBOX, reboot using floppy disk, and boot from Floppy again.

In workbench, quick format the Drives using format.  They will be shown as NDOS drives until you format them.
 

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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2006, 08:17:56 PM »
Make a partition of 300MB (DH0) then make another 1.7GB (DH1) then another 1.9GB (DH2) with HDToolbox.  Leave the rest of the Hard Disk blank.

Make DH0 the bootable drive.  Save changes and reboot.

Full Format each partition in turn: DH0, DH1 and DH2

!!Do Not Low Level Format!!
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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2006, 08:25:14 PM »
Nooo! I have low level formatted! (more times) But... for this i have mandate to mount* all my project to install harddrive? i should install a new hard disk now? Hmm.

mandate to mount = in sense of lose, the italian say is: "Mandato a monte".
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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2006, 08:30:43 PM »
Low Level formatting an IDE drive can kill it sometimes, but some drives are OK.
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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2006, 08:39:14 PM »
No need to low level format, as normal format is enough and a low format can actually damage your hard disk. All you need to do is partition the HD into smaller partitions using hdtoolbox, then you format the partitions normally afterwards. I think the main problem here is that your parition is more than 4gig? I would follow the suggestion of amikit.

 

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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2006, 09:18:27 PM »
in the process of partitioning the drive you have to install a file system to the disk first, without this the format has no meaning because you format to unknown this way...
Run the HDToolbox it will ask to install the disk press ok and after this go to install the file system, FastFileSystem from wb3,1 disk directory L or SmartFileSystem from aminet.Then you can determine the numbers of partitions etc...
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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2006, 09:23:37 PM »
I have esecuted the actions below descrived, but after the booting (on the same OS 3.1 install disk) The "DHx:NDOS" pseudoicons dosen't appear! Also, re-esecuting HDToolBox the my changes are gone! Why?
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Make a partition of 300MB (DH0) then make another 1.7GB (DH1) then another 1.9GB (DH2) with HDToolbox.  Leave the rest of the Hard Disk blank.

Make DH0 the bootable drive.  Save changes and reboot.

Full Format each partition in turn: DH0, DH1 and DH2

!!Do Not Low Level Format!!


And, i have esecuted also a "Verify hard-drive badblocks": no problems with this.
AMIGA 1200 with
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- 527 Mb HD drive

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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2006, 09:29:35 PM »
after you do all the preperation with file system install and partitioning you press the ''save'' button and then you reboot the amiga as amigakit already said...
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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2006, 03:14:17 PM »
Now i write the log of ALL my actions:
HARD DISK LED ON
I have booted from Workbench 3.1 Install Disk for my AMIGA 1200 (My ROM is 3.0)
HARD DISK LED OFF
Now the Workbench screen appears without "DHx:NDOS" pseudoicons.
I go on the "Install 3.1" floppy disk
I go on the "HDTools" drawer (or directory)
I start "HDToolbox".
I select "modify hard drive" button.
I selected my Hard-disk (SCSI, not IDE, IDE is not available)
Now appears the "Harddisk:FUJITSU model xxxxxxxxx BC16 Address:0 LUN:0 Type:SCSI"
I click "partition hard disk"
i define these partitions "DH0 (bootable) at 300MB, DH1 at 1700MB, DH2 at 1700MB and the rest empty"
i define file system. (FFS, but i guess is already setted)
I click OK to close "Partition Hard-drive button"
I click "Save changes on hard-drive".
HARD DISK LED TURNS ON LIKE A FLASH
I reboot AMIGA without close HDToolBox.
When i boot the "DHx:NDOS" pseudoicons dosen't appear. AFF!!! I can't format this hard drive. My procedure loops on point 1. (Same if i select Smartfilesystem)


And please note: my harddisk is IDE but not SCSI.
AMIGA 1200 with
- External FD Drive
- 527 Mb HD drive

I wish power up my AMIGA:
- AmigaOS 3.9 (upgrading wit CDROM drive, Blizard 1230IV and 56k modem)
 

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Re: Problems with a A1200 2.5 Hard-disk
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2006, 03:58:43 PM »
Boot from the Install3.1 disk and not Workbench as the Install3.1 disk has the L:FastFileSystem on it.
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