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Offline mr_a500

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 17, 2006, 09:59:28 PM »
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If you can't take that then you're a pathetic looser! So, keep your big mouth shut in the future!


Maybe you didn't notice but I removed that comment hours ago. I was going to let it go until you added that last line on your post - proving you just want to drag this thread into a fight.


Moderator: Please close this thread.

Offline AmiDude

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2006, 10:05:24 PM »
@mr_a500

Well, this proves it all! You're the one that
started this, and now you're chickening out!
Now we all can see your true face...
 

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2006, 10:09:29 PM »
"Chickening out", "you're the one that started it all" and "now we all can see your true face"?

Not that I am part of the previous flaming, but what I quoted above is OBVIOUSLY written in a way to provoce. The way I see it the only mature thing would be to not comment the whole issue any more. To keep commenting on it is just to keep feeding the fire. Feeding the fire is immature. Not bothering at all, would be the mature thing to do right now (and that's just my point of view, not saying that it is some kind of not to be questioned fact).

So, drop it, both of you!  :-D
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2006, 10:11:07 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions.
No thanks for the flamewar.

Mods, please close this travesty.
 

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2006, 10:16:07 PM »
As you guys all can see, I went back on topic
by pointing at another subject about Toolsdaemon.
Then mr_a500 starts again by accusing me for the
second time for insulting him. So, he's the only
fire-starter around here...  
 

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2006, 10:26:19 PM »
AmiDude: Just drop it. People can read the thread for themselves and see what happened if that is what they feel like doing. Just don't be a part of the flamewar and it will die out eventually because there is no more fuel to be found.

Essential apps:
MCP - Somewhat essential to me, partly because of some of the hacks to be found in it. They can prove to be really nice, if you just take you time browsing them all through.
FBlit / FScreen - If you're not running on RTG FBlit or FScreen will help speed up things quite a bit, actually, an absolute essential.
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2006, 10:30:34 PM »
So what was the best flame- err... file-manager again?
I still didn't get it...  :lol:

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2006, 02:21:32 AM »
I think a good flame war is better than noone talking at all.

There's passion in the old community still...

Personally I keep a combination of Directory Opus 4.12 and Ordering. The latter allows you to perform a Version command on all selected files just as you would do SIZE on your selected directories.

I used Ordering all the time until I got DOpus free with a laptop hard drive.

Here's a few other nice things:
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ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/time/VLTimer.lha - a small stopwatch/uptime thingy
ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/wb/Tinymeter_V431.lha - a program to display your disk sizes graphically, launch programs etc.
ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/misc/Snapper.lha - a tool to snapshot the position of those annoying non-MUI requestors/windows that always revert back to their original positions
ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/cdity/mcx256.lha - a tool to give you a screenblanker that has other cool functions like opaque-window moving and middle-mouse-button control
ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/time/TolleUhr.lha - a lovely clock for Workbench
ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/wb/FullPalette22.lha - a preference program to lock the Workbench colour palette (handy if you don't have a GFX card and some program changes your icon colours purple and blue!)

Here's MUI 3.8:
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ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/libs/mui38usr.lha - Get this as it will be needed by a lot of newer programs to enhance their appearance

For the Amiga's premier anti-virus program:
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http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/ve/VirusExecutor.lha
http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/xfd/xfdmaster.lha - checks crunched programs for viruses (used by VE)
http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/div/xadmaster000.lha - checks archives for viruses (used by VE)
http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/div/xadmaster020.lha
http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/div/xadmaster060.lha
http://www.vht-dk.dk/vhtdk/amiga/div/xadmaster-key.lha - keyfile for xadmaster library

Oh, and don't forget killer commercial apps like Deluxe Paint 5 (AGA compatible) and Wordworth 7!
 

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2006, 02:31:09 AM »
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I have this huge, fast machine sitting in front of me and all I really do is surf the web, chat and the occasional bloated forum reply.

You can do all that, but you will have to upgrade your a1200 to get a pleasant experience out of it. What you need is a accelrator and some ram and you also need a graphics card, so that you dont have to surf slowly in low res, few colours and so on..
 

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2006, 02:39:43 AM »
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Oh, and don't forget killer commercial apps like Deluxe Paint 5 (AGA compatible) and Wordworth 7!


Do not forget about Brilliance 2. There's not that much that Brilliance 2 can't do that DPaintV can (maybe all the animation options, haven't animated in Brilliance 2 at all, actually). But Brilliance 2, on the other hand, can do much that DPaint can't. But I haven't used them much lately, so don't take my word on it. Anyways, Brilliance 2 is worth checking out, better or not.

In the end, I guess it is really a matter of taste.
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2006, 02:48:06 AM »
You stinking liar! Deluxe Paint 5 is king!
 

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2006, 06:20:10 AM »
@Hyperspeed

I know your joking About Deluxe Paint V

But it is true that Brilliance 2.0 dethroned DPaint long time ago.

Only people who left the Amiga scene before Brilliance came out think DPaint is still king.

Brilliance's Interface is unbeatable....on any machine including  OSX and Windows XP.

I have yet to see an interface like it.  I wish there was one on the PC, I know there is one similar to DPaint though.


Anyone know of any apps like this on Windows or Mac?  or even Linux?
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2006, 07:42:02 AM »
Well I've never used Brilliance/2.0...

But if it doesn't have animation facilities with lighttable then you can't genlock your stick-man cartoons over old wedding videos no?

Does Brilliance have that Photoshop style 24-bit airbrush, cutting and pasting of brushes to use as smudgers, drawing implements and stencils?

What about palette blending and cycling, not to mention shape defined gradients!

Interesting to know what people feel about Photogenics, TV-Paint etc.
 

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2006, 10:50:13 AM »
Brilliance is the best paint program on Amigas.
Now I have GFX board on my A4000 and I try many paint programs for GFX board, still I think that Brilliance is the best.
Long time ago I also used DPaint, great soft, but Brilliance rulez. And yes you can do animation like in DPaint, but Brilliance have better options/effects for this than DPaint.
Best feature of Brilliance is HAM8 mode. (you can paint pix in  HAM8 mode and save like real 24bit image (or HAM8).
Also conversion 24bit>HAM8 is look superb when use Brilliance.

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2006, 11:35:38 AM »
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And yes you can do animation like in DPaint, but Brilliance have better options/effects for this than DPaint.


Oh, nice, did not know that since I've never tried using animation in Brilliance 2. Though, do you also have all that pseudo-3D-tweaking of brushes? Making them rotate, zoom and other stuff in X-Y-Z, and so on?


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Anyone know of any apps like this on Windows or Mac? or even Linux?


Actually I gave it a go, together with a friend, and tried everything we could get our hands on, demos, commercial applications, freeware programs... but no luck whatsoever. My friend bought pixel magazines which held tutorials on how to make those isometric pixel graphics which one often sees on webpages (you know, eBoy: http://www.eboy.com/eboy), but HECK! Don't you know it? THEY USED FREAKING PHOTOSHOP OR PAINT SHOP PRO TO DO THAT IN THEIR TUTORIALS! And they seemed so PROUD of it. Ooooh, you know, change the mode from RGB to Indexed Colour, make a grid (which you can't follow with the help of a brush showing exatly where the "pixels" will be plotted), do this and that and then that and some other things and then finally you can do some pixel grapchis wihtout the proper use of brushes and absolutely no way of actually seeing what you are doing until the dots have been plotted (and often just slightly not where it was to be plotted. Photoshopwas the worst but Paint Shop Pro wasn't much better).

Anyways, point is. The reason for my friend being so eager to find a Brilliance / DPaint alike app for the PC was that he saw me play around in those programs. He saw how I in minutes, sometimes seconds, did that isometric pixel graphics with ease, never really having tried to do it before, much thanks to the great use of brushes, grids, math / colour modes and more. If it hadn't been for him toying around in these two programs after seing me do it, he would probably have considered them tutorials in the magazines of great help. Now he laughs at them, because, really, they looked like nothing but: "HEY, we have found a WAY! Not that these applications EVER had this in mind, but WE FOUND A WAY TO DO IT! Now everyone uses this way, just like everyone is using Windows, without ever questioning if there is a better way.". OH. MY. GOSH.

Anyways.

Grafx2 can always be used. It's an Windows app and a DPaint / Brilliance clone. Although it isn't finished, very buggy and it seems it won't be developed any further.

Oh, and the latest eBoy poster: http://www.eboy.com/image/MSH_koelnposter_29t (it would be great to know what apps he have used, and how long it takes to do a poster such as this one).

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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2006, 12:14:31 PM »
If you're looking for a file-manager with a
real nice graphical interface: ClassAction:

http://de4.aminet.net/util/wb/classaction.lha

Or choose another one from this list (3 pages)

http://www.aminet.net/search.php?path=util/dir&start=0

In the end it's all about personal taste...
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