Essential Workbench apps?

[AmiDude]

@mr_a500

Your argument that ABCdir uses less memory and is
faster, is not true. Do you have any proof to backup
this nonsense?!

(just move cursor to sides to get parent directory, more buttons), uses less memory, has built in shell, smooth scrolling, scroll up/down with mouse button.

You can use all this options with DiskMaster2 too and
you can add as many commands as you like, and even more!
(You can add the shell command as well, and it opens
on the DiskMaster screen.)
My guess is that you don't understand how the DiskMaster confuguration works... :crazy:
 :-D

[mr_a500]

You can use all this options with DiskMaster2 too...

Let's see:
"just move cursor to sides to get parent directory"

Nope, it doesn't work - you obviously don't know what I mean

"has built in shell"

Nope, I'm not talking about being able to open a shell on the screen - I said "built in shell" and I don't see one

"smooth scrolling"

Nope - regular scrolling

"scroll up/down with mouse button"

Nope - doesn't work

"define 2 different actions for each filetype"

Nope - I don't see it

My guess is that you don't understand how the DiskMaster confuguration works...

I think it is even more likely that you haven't even tried ABCdir since you don't know what I mean for almost every point. :crazy:

[AmiDude]

@mr_a500

Nope, I'm not talking about being able to open a shell on the screen - I said "built in shell" and I don't see one

I never claimed that DM2 has a build in shell!
Can't you read?! I wrote: "You can add the shell
command as well". So you must add the command in
the DM2 prefs file.
All the other things works as well with DM2:
To get the parent directory, just klik on the
"S" button. And you CAN scroll the mouse up/down
and left/right! Use the arrows!
Maybe there's something wrong with your mouse?

I think it is even more likely that you haven't even tried ABCdir

Yes, I have...I have it installed on my A600 & A4000.
It's stable with my A600 system, but it crashes a lot
on my A4000 with OS3.9. DiskMaster2 is very stable on both systems! And you still haven't come up with any proof
that ABCdir uses less memory and that it's faster...
Your obviously don't know what you're talking about!:rtfm:

 :-D  

[mr_a500]

Your argument that ABCdir uses less memory and is
faster, is not true. Do you have any proof to backup
this nonsense?!

OK, I just did some tests and you're partially right. ABCdir doesn't use less memory. Surprisingly it uses EXACTLY the same memory as DiskMaster2. I did an avail, ran DiskMaster2, avail - then closed DiskMaster2 and did the same with ABCdir. It was the same memory to the byte. (strange)

CORRECTION: I was only looking at Chip usage. I ran the test again and found that DiskMaster2 uses more than 2X the memory of ABCdir! (778240 vs. 355008) Don't believe me? Do some tests yourself.

ABCdir is definitely faster though. DiskMaster2 seems to take 3 times longer to startup and seems slower at displaying directories.

By the way, you still didn't explain why ABCdir "sucks".


EDIT:
I posted this before I saw your last reply. If I had seen it first I wouldn't have replied. I tried to have a logical unemotional discussion, but you seem to insist on insulting without even reading or understanding my posts.


EDIT #2:
I have modified my post to remove an obvious insult. It is just frustrating trying to talk to someone who doesn't read posts carefully, apparently doesn't follow the logic of it, then comes out with insults and annoying statements when I'm calmly trying to explain.

[AmiDude]

@mr_a500 wrote:

By the way, you still didn't explain why ABCdir "sucks".

Like I mentioned before:
* It crashes a lot with OS3.9
* It's really out-dated. (no updates)
* DiskMaster is  faster with startup. (just checked it).
* DiskMaster is faster with displaying directories. (just  checked it).
* DiskMaster is more easy to configurate.
* There are on regularly base free updates and runs
like a charm on any Amiga with any OS, unlike ABCdir.

 :-D

[AmiDude]

mr_a500 wrote:

I posted this before I saw your last reply. If I had seen it first I wouldn't have replied because obviously I've been talking to a moron. I tried to have a logical unemotional discussion, but you seem to insist on insulting without even reading or understanding my posts.

That's a real pathetic and childish reaction!  :crazy:
You just know that I'm right about DiskMaster2,
and this is how you react on the situation.
Really sad... :-(

[doctorq]

Funny to see a peachful thread about which Workbench applications to use can start out a flame war. Why don't the two of you crow up? Peoples preferences are individual, shouldn't be hard to understand...

[AmiDude]

Peoples preferences are individual, shouldn't be hard to understand...

I agree with that.  :lol:

[AmiDude]

OK, back on topic. There's also a nice little proggy called "Toolsdaemon".

"ToolsDaemon allows you to run programs simply by selecting a menu item
from the menu strip of Workbench 2.0 or higher.  Shell and Workbench
programs are supported, including arguments and tool types for both of
these.  The menu items can be arranged in several menus, with sub-items
and keyboard shortcuts.

ToolsPrefs is designed as a preferences editor for the ToolsDaemon menus.
It features a font-sensitive localized GadTools front-end and supports the
2.0 AppWindow feature.  This means it allows you to drag programs into its
window and they will be automatically added to the menu items list.

ToolsDaemon is the background program that will launch the tools you
select from the menu strip.  It is meant to be dragged into the WbStartup
drawer so it will automatically be launched on startup."

http://de4.aminet.net/util/boot/ToolsDaemon21a.lha

and a patch for OS3.9:
http://de4.aminet.net/util/boot/ToolsDaemon22.lha

 :-)

[Trooper]

Ordering, One of the best, lightest and configurable file managers (And i`ve tried all the others), A lot like Dopus on a diet.
http://main.aminet.net/util/dir/Ordering_v1.18.lha

Give it a try.

Trooper

[Erol]

1. HappyENV
2. Ordering
3. MUI libaries
4. Voyager
5. Genesis
6. wbstartup+
7. MUI asl
8. golded
9. hippoplayer
10. more

[leirbag28]

@mr_a500

I agree that Directory Opus is too huge and ugly, and I do think ABCdir is REAL Cool looking!  But How the heck do you use it and configure it?

I think DiskMaster 2 is absolutely without a single doubt the best and easiest and lightest of them all.

it seems to be the one that would be included in Workbench as Standard if Workbench ever came with one. its just right.


Most important of all (at least for me)  it works on a TV and I dont need a Monitor like for ABCdir, because the text is to tiny.

I sure do wish that DM2 looked like ABCdir and was smooth like it.

looks great on my RGB monitor though. Makes it seem like a high end app.




By the way......thanks!   I can finally use ABCdir more regulary.......I couldnt before bcause I couldnt figure out how the heck to go to he PARENT directory hehe!.

kind of excited now!


But how do I make it show the correct Volumes?   right now I am forced to use their config of DH0, DH1, DH2......etc...

My Harddrives are   HD0,HD1,HD2, HD3...etc..

How do I fix this?

[mr_a500]

leirbag28:

If you want DiskMaster2 more similar to ABCdir, you should check out the one that Trooper suggested - Ordering. I just tried it and it's like a cross between the two. It even has the parent like ABCdir (left or right border) and the option to use right mouse button to scroll like in ABCDir (like I tried to explain to AmiDude - not scrolling with scrollbar!). You can even configure all the fonts. I think Ordering is faster than ABCdir, but other than that it doesn't quite make it. It lacks some of the features I like in ABCdir. It's better than DiskMaster though.

In ABCdir, to change any of the buttons, click the "D" beside the "VOL" button. The "D" will be highlighted and while it is, it is in config mode and any button you press can be configured. Make sure you save the configuration when you're finished (and click D again to go to regular mode). ABCdir config is tricky to begin with (especially if you don't read the manual), but once you start, it's easy.

Oh, and the crash that AmiDude mentioned has an easy solution (and I would have told him if he had been less insulting). When you have a button or filetype configured to execute a program - always "execute in background". The other potential crash - don't rely too much on the built-in LHA support. Some newer LHAs may have a problem. Just make a button for Voodoo-X or WizArc and you can avoid this problem completely.

[AmiDude]

@mr_a500 wrote:

...and I would have told him if he had been less insulting...

Are you starting this **** again?
You're the one that's been insulting pal! Calling me
names like moron...I was just pushing your nose on
the facts...nothing more, nothing less. If you can't
take that then you're a pathetic looser! So, keep your
big mouth shut in the future!

[Legerdemain]

I think the first thing you need to get is a program like Directory Opus for managing your files quickly. v4.12/4.17 is now freeware - it's a really nice bit of software.

Actually it's gone all the way up to 4.21 =)

[mr_a500]

If you can't take that then you're a pathetic looser! So, keep your big mouth shut in the future!

Maybe you didn't notice but I removed that comment hours ago. I was going to let it go until you added that last line on your post - proving you just want to drag this thread into a fight.


Moderator: Please close this thread.