First time install of TekMagic 060 w/9gb Seagate HD

[amigadave]

It looks like I will be pulling an all night build as it is already past 4am here, but since all of you to the East of me are up and online (61 users), maybe some of you can help me.

I am putting my trusty old A2000 back together with some recently aquired parts and need some help partitioning the 9gb HD and installing the OS.  The TekMagic 060 card came with an install floppy with an ancient FastPrep and ExpertPrep HD tools on it, that cannot recognise my Seagate ST19171N 9gb drive or my Seagate ST34317WC 4gb drive.  The 9gb drive shows up as 491mb and the 4gb drive shows up as 0mb.  I have 3.1 ROM's installed and 3.1 floppies, 3.5 and 3.9 CDROM's, so the question is how do I begin to get one or both of these HD recognized so I can start the installation of the OS?

Help!

[mdivancic]

Make you OS 3.9 Emergency boot disk and format from there. The problem is that you prep software doesn't know about drives bigger than 4 gb. I had the same problem installing to a larger HD on my A4000. You may be able to update the file system on 3.1 using the 3.9 file system, but I've never done this.

Mike

[patrik]

@amigadave:

Just use the normal HDToolBox found in the HDTools drawer on the 3.1 install-disk or in the Tools drawer on a normal setup.

In its tooltypes, set SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=tekscsi2.device, then start it. It should then find your harddrive.

Use the "Change Drive Type"-button, then "Define new", "Read configuration from drive", etc to create a rdb on it. It will also say the drive is some ridiculous size, but dont mind.

When that is done partition the drive and create a say 100MB workbench-partition in the very beginning of the drive. If you are about to create more partitions at this time, make sure they are in the first 4GB of the drive.

Now save the changes to the drive, reboot your computer with the 3.1 install-disk. After booting, first format your workbench partition and then install WB3.1.

Now if you choose to stick with WB3.1, you will have to stick with using the first 4GB of the drive if you dont try the TD64 variant of FFS found on aminet.

If you install Workbench 3.5 and above, the NSD (New Style Devices) patch-system will act as a wrapper, patching NSD calls by the newer FFS, to use direct-scsi calls that tekscsi2.device will understand and thus you will be able to use partitions created beyond the first 4GB of the drive.

One thing to keep in mind though is that disregarding if you use 3.5 and above, the workbench-partition you boot from needs to reside in the first 4GB of your drive as the region past the first 4GB cant be accessed until the NSD patch is loaded.


/Patrik

[amigadave]

@patrik,  I tried booting off the 3.1 Install disk and it would not boot.  The TekMagic disk would boot to a message that said you must boot to a WorkBench first before using that disk, so I booted straight to the 3.1 WorkBench disk, inserted the 3.1 Install disk, copied HDToolBox to the RAM, changed the scsi.device on the copy in RAM and tried to run it but it could not see any devices on the scsi chain. :-?

[amigadave]

I hope I haven't ruined my brand new, never been used 9gb Seagate Barracuda drive, but I manually entered the number of heads, cylinders and sectors into ExpertPrep and formatted the drive into 5 partitions.

[patrik]

@amigadave:

Rename the 68040.library on your 3.1 install-disk, it is incompatible with your 060 and will thus not boot.

Before starting the install rename it to 68040.library again to prevent the installer from failing during install.

When the installer is done, before you reboot, copy the 68040.library and 68060.library from the Tekmagic/68060/libs_060/ drawer of tekmagic disc to the Libs drawer of your workbench-partition.


/Patrik

[Argus]

I find it helpful to install a 3.1 and then 3.9 system on a smaller scsi harddisk first, say a 500MB one you probably have lying around.  Next, add the larger 9GB scsi disk to the chain, properly jumper and terminate it.  Boot off of your small scsi disk and then you can format the larger disk directly under 3.9, making a bootable sys: partition in the first 4GB with a boot priority slightly less than the initial small drive partition.  Now, reboot, format the new partitions on the large drive and copy over your smaller drive's sys: partition contents to the new sys: partition on the large drive.  Reboot and hold down both mouse buttons, select and boot from the new large drive's sys: partition.  Once you've verified the machine has booted off your new drive, shut the machine off and remove the small scsi drive (store it for future use).

[amigadave]

Not a bad idea Argus, I think I will try that next.  I worked on that A2000 through the whole night and crashed at about 7:30am (me not the computer).  I'll try again this weekend to get it all set up.  Thanks for all suggestions from everyone.

[Argus]

I find keeping a spare scsi and/or ide disk with everything on it is the easiest way to set up a new 3.9 or even 3.1 Amiga, sort of a large 'emergency disk'.  The nice thing if you have multiple machines is that you don't have to reinstall everything.  Over the years I've come up with a pretty stable configuration in my Sys: partition, so I find this works the best.  Different hd controllers and 68060 cards may require you to install a few files from floppy but otherwise it's a sound approach imho. You can even do the same thing on the A600/A1200 with a pcmcia ata disk.  Just create a bootable workbench floppy with the necessary drivers to access the card and AT filesystem, then transfer everything over to the internal ide hardisk.  Good luck. :-)