leirbag28 wrote:
@A3KOne
I think you respond unecessarily......as I already explained that....if you read more closely, I think you will get what I am saying. Already said that the Pentium II will win in Mathematical area.
but I think this part of my comment sums it up:
"Just a more satisfying experience is what I really mean.
an 030 cant play Quicktme or edit Video like a Pentium II, but when it comes to responsiveness..........Ah man! Amiga kills in this area."
Plus you compare unfairly.........add a Picasso IV and a VLAB motion to an 040..and it can do quite amazingly.............no it wont play "DIVX" but will play Divx quality movies.........one just has to know what they are doing......or if someone took the time to convert it to an Amiga format......you will be amazed.
its all about the Closeness of everything in the Amiga working together and AmigaOS
Windows is a horrible OS, horribly organized.
Amiga wins in Responsiveness and better overall system.
Keep in mind, one can easily say a Pentium II is even comparable to an AmigaONE...in some ways one can see that.......but in reality they would be wrong........as they are judging it based on lack of Apps, including DIVX playback, or FLASH or Quicktime.............these things just need to be written.
I think most would choose an Amiga with 040 VLAB and picasso set up correctly over a Pentium II any day.
Heck.....I personally would choose an AGA 030 Amiga over the fastest Pentium III
In the case of my 500Mhz celeron PC, it uses an intel 810 Gfx chipset. My PPC Amiga had a CybervisionPPC board. The Permedia2 on a local PCI was probably faster than the intel.
The PC was as fast or faster playing video. At the time I Got rid of my miggy, there was no DIVX. The CPU was the bottleneck. My underpowered x86 win98 box was just as fast.
I agree that responsiveness is an issue...but the fact is, if you ported OS4 to x86 and had it running on cheap PC hardware, it would be even more responsive. A cheap integrated P4 3Ghz motherboard, with a cheap SiS integrated chip set and shared ram would run circles around the fastest Amiga or clone on the market (or drawing board).
I am posting this from my IBM Thinkpad T23 1.13Ghz P3M laptop with 384Mb ram that I bought used for $400 almost a year ago. I am running Debian Sarge that I installed for free, and using a wireless network card that I paid $12 for, from TigerDirect. I use OpenOffice and FireFox every day, and If AmigaOS was available for it, I would gladly pay $100 for it...and it would fly...and I would be happy.
The fact is, OS4 was rewritten to uncouple it from the legacy Amiga hardware...unfortunately it has been couple to another dinosaur, the PowerPC.
If Hyperion or Amiga was serious about moving forward and making Amiga a viable platform again, they would move to x86. The only reason I can see that they would not, is if their intentions are not for the desktop market anyway...and I think that is likely the case. I spent more money on Amiga hardware than most people, but here is reality...my antique laptop with Linux will outperform the fastest am1ga solution in every way, responsiveness included.
I wish AROS well, but without official support, I don't see them becoming more than a hobbyist OS. An official Amiga x86 release could potentially be more.
I want Amiga to succeed. I REALLY WANT an Amiga solution. I am not going to pay a ridiculous price for vintage hardware to get it. You can flame me or insult me or whatever, but here is the truth. Most people care about how well something works and how much it costs. AmigaOS on x86 would work better than on PPC, and cost MUCH less. Most people do not care if the chip says motorola instead of intel on it. The only people who do are the fanatical Amiga purists, and there are not enough of them left to buy the am1ga to make it a viable platform for the future.
In the end when the question is asked "who killed Amiga?"
The sad answer will be "The people who loved it most."
Even sadder is that they will blame someone else...Medhi Ali and Jack Tramiel are not around to blame anymore, but I am sure that they will find someone.
