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Offline motorollinTopic starter

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Re: Q
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2006, 01:56:46 PM »
No, wait 8 years for the Amiga conversion and pay 4 times the price for it... :lol:

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Re: Q
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2006, 01:59:18 PM »
What just like we all did for nightlong,heretic2 and quake2  :crazy:

Oops I've kinda took this topic right of track now lol

But to get it back on topic, I think i'll go and read abit of the Q forums and see what bench tests they have for the PC emulation just out of interest now

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Re: Q
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2006, 04:31:59 PM »
FYI, you can also run AROS inside Q :-)

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Re: Q
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2006, 07:16:09 PM »
it doesnt simulate a ppc, it's an x86 emulator.
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Re: Q
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2006, 07:34:04 PM »
But current Mac is already a powerpc machine, so why would you simulate a powerpc inside of a powerpc?

OS4 would run just fine on mac, if hyperion or something wanted to port it. But sadly it seems like the current licensing issues is what stops it from being ported.
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Re: Q
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2006, 08:12:46 PM »
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it doesnt simulate a ppc, it's an x86 emulator.

Actually it simulates PPC as well.



The reason for running inside a simulation is so that you don't have to overwrite the existing OS, or write a bootloader to select from multiple OSes. But you are correct Tomas, it could potentially run natively on the Mac.

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Re: Q
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2006, 09:43:27 PM »
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No, it will only run on an AmigaOne. MorphOS runs on Pegasos or Classic Amigas with PPC cards.


That's not true, there is a version of OS4 for classics with PPC boards, and also allegedly for the PowerVixen A1200 add-on.
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Re: Q
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2006, 10:07:19 PM »
Years ago "Q" was supposed to be some super awesome programming language or operating system or something. There was an IRC chat about it and then nothing. Later on I heard that it was a hoax.
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Re: Q
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2006, 10:14:37 PM »
Q really is a great emulator based on QEmu. The UI is very nice and friendly. ArosMAX is sweet on it. (The included DOOM runs plenty fast enough to be played.) I mess around with Windows 98SE on it as well just to compare how well AROS runs against it on the "same hardware". I also use it to test out the latest releases of ReactOS (Windows clone) which is also coming along nicely.

I have not been able to get anything PowerPC to boot on it though... (My YellowDog disc as well as my OS X Tiger installer doesn't do anything.)

Check it out though if you have a Mac... better than supporting MS by buying VirtualPC.
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Re: Q
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2006, 10:24:48 PM »
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That's not true, there is a version of OS4 for classics with PPC boards, and also allegedly for the PowerVixen A1200 add-on.


Thats great, where can I buy it!!!!!!!
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Re: Q
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2006, 12:41:19 AM »
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it doesnt simulate a ppc, it's an x86 emulator.

Actually it simulates PPC as well.



The reason for running inside a simulation is so that you don't have to overwrite the existing OS, or write a bootloader to select from multiple OSes. But you are correct Tomas, it could potentially run natively on the Mac.

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Man, sorry for the comment i made earlier. Ive been looking for a ppc emulator for a while now. Ive even looked at QEmu before, and didnt notice that it did more than x86! Thanks for pointing that out.

A friend of mine and i are writting a simple kernel for the ppc arch. I know that pear pc can run ppc code, but it seems pretty centered on running OSX and we dont want to use a simulator that focuses on pretty much one OS. Looks like i'll be trying that app out
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Re: Q
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2006, 09:15:48 AM »
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Man, sorry for the comment i made earlier.

No problem :-)

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Ive been looking for a ppc emulator for a while now. Ive even looked at QEmu before, and didnt notice that it did more than x86! Thanks for pointing that out.

I don't think it's an emulator. On the Mac it probably uses the real PPC processor (like how VMWare on x86 uses the real x86 processor rather than emulating one). I don't think the x86 version of QEmu supports PPC simulation.

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A friend of mine and i are writting a simple kernel for the ppc arch. I know that pear pc can run ppc code, but it seems pretty centered on running OSX and we dont want to use a simulator that focuses on pretty much one OS. Looks like i'll be trying that app out

PearPC is a PPC emulator. In theory, I think, it should be able to run any PPC OS, so your kernel should run just fine (assuming PearPC's emulation is accurate).

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Re: Q
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2006, 11:15:45 AM »
A small motorollo is certainly enough to do a sim of a PPC SYS on an a600!!!

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Re: Q
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2006, 11:32:54 AM »
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Thats great, where can I buy it!!!!!!!


Perhaps next time, before you start with the pathetic attempts at points scoring, you could properly read what is written...

He said:-

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No, it will only run on an AmigaOne.


Which, as I've seen OS4 running on an A1200PPC, is clearly not true.

and so I said:-

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That's not true, there is a version of OS4 for classics with PPC boards, and also allegedly for the PowerVixen A1200 add-on.


See?  I said nothing about availability, just that such a version exists,  and that there is alleged to be a version running on PowerVixen.

Way to make yourself look like a prize plonker.
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Re: Q
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2006, 11:43:17 AM »
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That's not true, there is a version of OS4 for classics with PPC boards,


Some betatesters have a version, but thats no gurantee (sp) that it will actully be released. It's just as much existing as MOS1.5, PIOS-PPC, BoXeR, etc....
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and also allegedly for the PowerVixen A1200 add-on.


Mmmm, now lets get down to the facts:
- Hyperion say (just a good week ago) that there is no HW fo OS4, and given their usual PR-style we can safely assume that they wouldn't have made such a statement if that hope of changing that real soon.

- soon after ACK claims the PowerW^HVixen had gone into production, which (again comparing to his past PR-style) probraly means as little as ordering the PCB for the very first proto.

The PowerW^HVixen would need a lot of adaption (different IDE-controller, slighly different PCI-setup, requirement of accessing AGA etc), so there is absolutly no chance of a working OS4 on it, even if Hyperion would have gotten one hours after the IRC-chat.
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Re: Q
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 08, 2006, 12:53:07 PM »
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That's not true, there is a version of OS4 for classics with PPC boards, and also allegedly for the PowerVixen A1200 add-on.



Well hopefully Hyperion will release the version for the classic, cause i'm sure I cant be the only amigian that doesnt want a A1
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