Another reason why I want to ditch Microsoft.......

[god64]

@catherder

i never played planetside, but i have played other 3d multiplayer war games, i several times took part in a match of savage2 with more then 60 players per party... wasn't impressed too much... still a stupid firstperson/realtime strategy mix. some friends of mine play mmorpg's a lot and i hear them whining about cheaters often. in fact i was a gpl league racer for some time and was confronted with some cheaters. this is why i prefer a 5 player dynablaster with friends over a mmorpg with unknown cheaters a lot. and i still do prefer getting to know new people in real life.

what exactly is the new concept behind battlefield 2?

Those games are just two examples of the 20-30 new generation first person shooter type games that make *anything* ever to appear previously on any computer platform (or console) look like a bad game of Pong.

thats what i am saying... they LOOK better, but they don't PLAY better. the fun in games is a very personal matter, i understand people that are into 3d games. i am not and i think they are not necessary. 3d is now looking as good as handdrawn graphics, but for what price (literally )

@coldfish:

the usual answer from people that have no arguments, personal attack.

no i don't have seen them all, but i have seen a lot and following the gamescene closely. as i started my computer career as a game programmer, i have still friends working in the industry providing me with information. believe me, if you would know me, you would know that you are messing with the wrong guy about having tried nothing new in 7 years, but you don't know me, thats why i prefer personal contact, also in gaming :lol:

[Oliver]

Well, I used to use a number of operating systems (mostly mac, amiga, and a bit of solaris), but always had problems sharing files, because so many people used windows.  That was a primary reason for me using windows, and I have to say it's made that issue much easier, and I would not stop using windows for that reason.  A lot of programs have claimed compatibility with windows apps over the years, but it never fully pans out.  Always some formatting issues, or some features not supported, etc.  Unfortunately, just can't avoid the fact that so many users have adopted windows.  Between windows and *nix, I can do pretty much everything I need to.  It's actually pretty rare for me to turn on my beloved 1200 these days, as it just doesn't do half of what I need.

edit: still hate windows though, and the security is a joke (I don't fully believe that it's just a matter of the user base.  M$ coding leaves so much to be desired, in so many ways.)

[Cyberus]

I want to ditch windows too, but for a number of reasons:

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I like to play the occasional game with my housemates over the lan, or on the internet

Day of Defeat and Dawn of War is all, really...

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I don't have the time these days to spend all day tinkering with computers - I'm trying to spend more time on my creative hobbies - writing and photography. Windows is just easy, and easy to get help/advice for if you need it.

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Find me a way of playing the odd modern game (I know some DO run on Mac) and I'm sold!

[CatHerder]

Well, if you want to see a 3D game that not only is a fantastic GAME but it looks phenominal, has a perfect musical score, and pulls it all off without any death (other than a few ship captains falling overboard) just go buy "Sid Meier's Pirates!". It's one of the very few 'remakes' of a classic that deserves to have the same name as the original.

Another amazing game (again 3D) that isn't a first person shooter is Black & White, another is Command & Conquor Generals, yet another is Grand Theft Auto III, and yet another is Dungeon Siege; "3D" is not limited to first person shooters. The list is almost endless on the PC. Games are better on the PC compared to a console: I can't get into console gaming, they're too limited, they're all gimped to work around 10 options (all the buttons on your controller) and the PC games allow for more variety, updates, expansions, etc. (I even gave my modded xBox to my niece because I never used it). Games that are popular on the PC almost always end up with a community supported modding group where people create new missions, maps, units, characters, options, etc. The value in most new PC games is just that much greater than its console version because of this.

The audio and visual effects of today's games are stunning, when you toss in a great game and great gameplay you end up with a product that it becomes almost unfair to compare anything from the 80s/90s beside it.

All that being said, the reasons I use PCs and Windows is because of Photoshop and other productivity tools (Adobe Encore and Adobe Audition! also get a lot of mileage here), the wide range of website development tools, the wealth of online tools, and finally because I can also play the best games out there when I have time to take a break. :-)

Of course there are going to be security vulnerabilities in Windows operating systems, it's used by over 250 million people. If 250 million people still used an Amiga you bet your arse it would have a pile of vulnerabilities (doesn't anyone remember how many viruses there used to be on the Amiga every week back in the early 90s?). An operating system is only as secure as the number of people trying to exploit and attack it. It has nothing to do with who writes the OS. Just ask any of us who have gone through hundreds and hundreds of patches and security updates and kludges for RedHat and Apache...

[Acill]

If you want to play games the Mac has plenty. All the great games are out for both Windows and OS X. So what if hundreds of worthless games are windows only?!

World of Warcraft is the same on both machines for example. I wouldnt use Windows to save my life. Never have and never will.

[coldfish]

the usual answer from people that have no arguments, personal attack.

Actually, I was responding to a moronic comment you made about yourself, that youve "played 3D games and they suck."  You made a personal statement and I attacked it.

i am not into 3d games, tried them, but i think they suck. nothing new since the doom days. just mixed in a bit of this and that genre and a little graphics update.

How retarded is that statement?  

Now that youve added a little more detail, I actually agree with you to some extent, many games dont play much better than DOOM, though I would call that a compliment considering how well DOOM played.

[Cyberus]

CatHerder wrote:
Well, if you want to see a 3D game that not only is a fantastic GAME but it looks phenominal, has a perfect musical score, and pulls it all off without any death (other than a few ship captains falling overboard) just go buy "Sid Meier's Pirates!". It's one of the very few 'remakes' of a classic that deserves to have the same name as the original.

I LOVE that game - I always play it when I can't sleep. So much variety, from the 'sack the town' sequences to the dancing(!), and you have so much freedom. The thing is though, I find that even if I don't get distracted doing silly things, I always get really old before I find half my family.

Yeah, I'm gonna look into seeing if I could migrate to Mac OSX..Can I play DoD: Source and Dawn of War? I'll investigate...