MUI preferences

[Will-i-am]

I have MUI 3.8, registered, and have installed it on 4 of my Amigas: two A4000 desktops, one A4000T, and one A2000. I have OS's 2.1, 3.1 and 3.9 on these machines. (One OS per machine). I used the install script just as it came out of the archive and used all the defaults so everything should be where the author thinks they belong. Nothing I do to the preferences seems to affect any program other than MUI. If I add gadgets to the window, only MUI gets the extra gadgets. If I change the backgrounds, colors, borders etc only MUI shows the changes. How do I get Workbench, Work, or any other window to show those changes I'd like to add to my Amiga Experience?

Subquestion 1A: Howcum I can't add any kind of image format to my windows backgrounds? I can't even get new patterns, all I get is the basic grey-blue. If I select any kind of image as a background nothing happens, no warning, no error, nothing. I turn off the machine and turn it back on and the requester shows my previous selection but nothing shows on the windows. This is OS 3.1 with productivity as my screen mode. Help?

[Framiga]

Hi

every app that uses MUI, has its own MUI settings.

Open the app you need and select Settings>MUI and change the settings from there. (or even from the top bar window popup gadget>MUI)

[MrZammler]

MUI prefs will only affect MUI apps (i.e. those written with this toolkit). Workbench, Work etc windows are not MUI (they're part of the OS, which uses reaction instead).

[Framiga]

"How do I get Workbench, Work, or any other window to show those changes I'd like to add to my Amiga Experience?"

ah ok understood now!

Goto "SYS:Prefs/WBPattern" editor and change windows and background pattern from there.

[Will-i-am]

Framiga wrote:
"How do I get Workbench, Work, or any other window to show those changes I'd like to add to my Amiga Experience?"

ah ok understood now!

Goto "SYS:Prefs/WBPattern" editor and change windows and background pattern from there.

well, I did that several times and each time I change the pattern nothing happens. It shows the changes I made on the pattern editor, but nothing happens to the actual Workbench window. I tried the built in patterns and various formatted images and none of them display. Workbench is set to productivity, but I know I have had it set to that mode and been able to get images on the background before. I have also changed the screen mode and still get no images or paterns.

[Framiga]

mhhh! on all the above mentioned OSs versions?

I could understand with images (low chip ram or no datatypes installed) but with patterns!

No idea sorry :-(

[motrucker]

Are the roms 3.1? or 3.0?...........

[Will-i-am]

motrucker wrote:
Are the roms 3.1? or 3.0?...........

the roms are 3.1 on both A4000D models and the OS is also 3.1. On the Beast we have 3.9 OS and it works just fine, backgrounds etc. At one point one of the desktops had 3.0 and I think it is possible that I lost my ability to change windows' backgrounds about the time I went to 3.1, but I can't be sure because that's about the time I got the Beast and it's sister and things got weird dealing with Cyberstorms and the funny cpu in the Beast.... but since then I got everything straightened out except this one item...well two if you count the MUI odditywhich is about the same kind of issue. Oh yeah, I just remembered that this is also the time DirOpus stopped booting up. It came back on the Beast when I went to OS 3.9. Otherwise on the desktops I get a guru # and when I suspend I end up with a dopus titlebar behind the workbench that won't go away and has no menus or anything... hmmmm might be a red herring.

[SamuraiCrow]

Try turning off the backdrop check mark on the first menu on Workbench.  Then resize the window.  Your backdrop window may be covering up your Workbench pattern.

[Will-i-am]

SamuraiCrow wrote:
Try turning off the backdrop check mark on the first menu on Workbench.  Then resize the window.  Your backdrop window may be covering up your Workbench pattern.

Dang, the backdrop is unchecked. I went thru every window I could in MUI and they all look great, with all those little gadgets up in the corner but the workbench and all other applications are plain, no background, no extra gadgets, nothing. This happened before I added the PicassoII board so it isn't that.... I had hoped the Picasso would help maybe. I have a Cyberstorm board PPC and I can't recall if the previous '040 board had the same problem. I should check the Beast again, I can't remember if she has the same problem.

Okay, the '040 A4000 desktop now has a workbench pattern, but still nothing I do to MUI prefs seems to have any effect on any other windows but the MUI windows, and the CS/PPC machine still has no WB pattern. Registered versions, no fancy graphics cards on one of them, same OS.... curiouser and curiouser. Maybe it doesn't matter but it pisses me off. Why doesn't MUI DO anything for either machine??

Looking at the differences: one has a cyberstorm, one doesn't. One has a Picasso card, one doesn't. Aside from some hardware differences, like an external floppy on one and two HDs, whereas the other has one HD and an internal floppy they're the same. They both have OS 3.1, they both have a registered version of MUI. The one with no graphics card has a workbench pattern but no MUI gadgets. The other has no WB pattern and no MUI gadgets. I tried reinstalling MUI and nothing changes. Maybe I should count MUI off as a loss. Maybe it's not worth tearing my hair out, but still when I show off my collection to nonbelievers it's nice to have something fancy to show off. Where can I get that juggling robot anim?