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Mixed up drivers
« on: December 09, 2005, 08:12:06 PM »
Pfew,

I finally got my 4000T up and running with a 20 gig ide drive. But i have some trouble again with the IDEFIX 97' drivers. After the install it give's the error that my partition has got bad blocks. I have divided the drive into 4gb & 16gb partition.

After the removal of the idefix drivers then the problem is also gone. So i recon it has to be the drivers.

In my last topic i got the remark to do someting with "skip rom update" i really don't know how to do that.

Someone got a walktrough?

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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2005, 09:33:18 PM »
If your problem is gone without IDEfix, why do you want to activate IDEfix ?

To answer your question: use your favourite text editor to load s:startup-sequence. One of the first lines should be

SetPatch QUIET

Change this to read

SetPatch QUIET SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device"

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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2005, 09:36:41 PM »
I use the IDEFIX 97' driver because i need them for my cdrom player.

Or is there another way to activate my cdrom player without the IDEFIX driver ??


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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2005, 09:45:41 PM »
If I'm not mistaken from AOS3.5 onwards (there was also a patch to 3.1 released by Escom wich is on Aminet IIRC) there is support for ATAPI devices in scsi.device.
IdeFix is a nice piece of software too, I never made up my mind between the 2.
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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 09:54:08 PM »

You don't need IDEfix if you only have two IDE devices without a 4-way adapter. And if your CD-ROM is the only device on the second channel of a 4-way adapter, the only file from IDEfix you need is atapi.device, nothing else. The full IDEfix package is only needed if you want to run a HDD on the second channel of the 4-way adapter.

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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2005, 07:05:48 PM »
Kinda feeling stupid,

I have copied my atapi.device to the DEVS directory, so far so good. Also copied the CD1 to the DEVS/DOSdrivers folder.

But when i boot the cd-rom does not mount or anything. I also tried mounting it with MOUNT (tools folder). It is there but i cannot find the Rigidbootblock ?

Strange because i need some sort of walktrough before i screw up my os3.9 again.

What the F*CK am i doing wrong??
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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2005, 08:11:54 AM »


If you want to get a walktrough, you first have to tell us where you want to walk through. Where are you now (hardware config, software installed) and where do you want to get ?

Your posts sound as if you already have OS3.9 installed. How did you do that if your CD-ROM does not work ?

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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2005, 09:18:54 AM »
Hi Thomas,

As i was aware of the problem concerning the mix up with the drivers.

Here is how i did it.

- Formatting the 4gig partition using the workbench 3.1.
- Installing workbench 3.1.
- Installing idefix 97' for cd-rom activation.
(there are no problems yet because i didn't format the 16gig yet)
- Creating a RESCUE DISK os3.9 (it uses the idefix for cd-rom acces)
- Booting with install disk from 3.1 again and format the 4 gig partition.

- No i do a clean install using the RESCUE DISK. I do not copy the cdrom drivers to the harddisk because they cause the problem.

- After the 1st reboot i can acces the 16gig partition and format it.

- Then i install the cyberstorm MK1 & cybergraphics drivers for the hardware.

From THIS point on i need some sort of guide.

Thanx for the support allready.
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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2005, 09:26:05 AM »
Your 3.9 Emergency Disk should enable your CD-ROM. Try booting from the Emergency Disk with your OS3.9 CD in the drive. Can you see your CD-ROM now?

Now use HDToolBox from the Emergency Disk to create your partitions, then run OS3.9 setup from the CD to install the OS to the hard disk.

Once the OS is installed it will copy the working CD-ROM drivers and mountlist to your hard disk. All you need to do is reboot and it will work. You shouldn't need to copy any drivers as long as the CD-ROM works from the Emergency Disk.

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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2005, 11:48:25 AM »
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A1200Power wrote:
Hi Thomas,

As i was aware of the problem concerning the mix up with the drivers.

Here is how i did it.

- Formatting the 4gig partition using the workbench 3.1.
- Installing workbench 3.1.
- Installing idefix 97' for cd-rom activation.
(there are no problems yet because i didn't format the 16gig yet)
- Creating a RESCUE DISK os3.9 (it uses the idefix for cd-rom acces)
- Booting with install disk from 3.1 again and format the 4 gig partition.

- No i do a clean install using the RESCUE DISK. I do not copy the cdrom drivers to the harddisk because they cause the problem.

- After the 1st reboot i can acces the 16gig partition and format it.

- Then i install the cyberstorm MK1 & cybergraphics drivers for the hardware.

From THIS point on i need some sort of guide.

Thanx for the support allready.



Well, IMHO it is not a good point to continue from here. I'd like to restart from the top and jump in after the third step (Installing IDEfix for CDd-ROM activation). You should install the CSMK1 and CGX drivers here. It is important that the 68060 drivers are copied to the emergency disk and it is handy if the CGX drivers are copied either.

However, you still conceal your hardware configuration, so I cannot decide whether you need IDEfix or not with OS3.9. Where is your CD-ROM drive connected to ?

Assuming that your CD drive is one of two IDE devices and you don't have a 4-way adapter, then you don't need IDEfix. So please create a new emergency disk and when you are asked if you use IDEfix, answer with "no". Before you start from the disk the first time, edit df0:devs/dosdrivers/emergency_cd and change device=atapi.device into device=scsi.device.

Now you should have a working emergency disk without IDEfix drivers. You can boot from the disk, partition and format your HDD and install OS3.9. You shouldn't need to use WB3.1 any more.

If you have a 4-way adapter and your CD-ROM drive is connected to its second channel (which means the unit number in df0:devs/dosdrivers/emergency_cd is 2 or 3), do the same as above but instead of editing emergency_cd, copy atapi.device to df0:devs.

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Re: Mixed up drivers
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2005, 01:00:26 PM »
Hey Thomas,

Thanx again for the fast reply. I'am gonna try this option for sure.

By the way i did forgot to tell you that i indeed use a 4-way ide adapter to @ more devices later.

On the bootdisk i allready put in the 68040.library for my mk1. There is is telling me that am dealing with a 040 cpu and not a 060. (strange cause there is realy a 060 on the board) Needles to say that is also maybe a driver problem.

Anyway i also tried you SKIPDROMUPDATES "scsi.device" but that didn't help much because i still got errors on my 16gig partition.

So lets hope this option is gonna work for sure.

Bye Henk
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