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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 05, 2003, 12:35:26 PM »
@Dan

You hopeless optimist ......
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2003, 12:56:51 PM »
Uhm, you're OH so silly.

They're doing the FINAL testing of the emulator integration using OS3.9 running in emulation. Thie is because it's the only way to _really_ know you've tested every last bit.

Once OS39 runs stable under emulation you're pretty much FINISHED with the critical emulation betatesting, NOT just begun.

The core parts are already done (they were done in C, so was tested on 68k before the kernel was ready).

Jesus, you just HAD to misunderstand the WHOLE point of the exercise, right?
 

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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2003, 01:18:10 PM »
about the picture: Why only 100Mhz FSB?
 

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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2003, 01:46:24 PM »
@oleegil

Yes the emulator is finished when OS3.9 runs on it, but do
you really believe all those other components will just
recompile out of th box ? And just work with other parts
still 68k ?

/dream on
1. Make an announcment.
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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2003, 04:22:50 PM »
@ksk

Didn't you notice, I have already answered the question once... :-) Just take a look at those previous postings and you'll see.
 

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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2003, 06:09:11 PM »
I don't think they "will compile" out of the box, I'm pretty certain they "have compiled" already. Do you think no modules have been tested under execsg just because the emulation hasn't been foolproofed? Come on.
 

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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2003, 06:31:54 PM »
How do you test Intuition-PPC (for example) without the rest of
the system ? There are very few modules/libs that could run on
Exec(SG) and nothing else.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2003, 08:33:51 PM »
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Pecosbil wrote:
@ksk

Didn't you notice, I have already answered the question once... :-) Just take a look at those previous postings and you'll see.


Oh... right ... me doing the too speedy reading again (did not notice your post on the first go) and I also missed that it was a picture from your A1... :)
 

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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2003, 09:06:54 PM »
Kronos:

Why do you keep insisting that there's no system to test it on? I already tried to tell you they're not running OS3.9 under emulation because they don't have an OS4, they're doing it to find the last missing bugs (of course they're not going to find the last missing bugs (this is the definition of last missing bug, isn't it?  :-D ), but they can try, can't they) in the frelling emulation. The reason why you haven't seen a demo of the whole system (like with MOS) is that Hyperion does NOT want to show a crashing demo (like with MOS). Hans-Joerg has said so himself.

The thing with OS3.9 running under emulation was mentioned as a side-note, because if you think about it it's really a good idea.
 

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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2003, 09:28:08 PM »
@olegil

Hmm they didn't have a system working good enough to
show it last week, but still you think the final
is gonna be
"out any day now " ?

Doesn't sound very realistic .....

And rest assured one can bring any system down if he just
wants to, and that what happened in not to few cases with
MOS on public shows, and that will happen to OS4, once it
can be touched by "mortals".

I also wouldn't give to much value about what any Hyperion-guy
has to say after all the completly off-mark predictions on
the release-schedule they made in the last 15 months.

Also noticed that I haven't made any comment on when I think
it will be released, just on your "out any day now" which
sounds like 4 weeks max and I don't see that happening.

See you in May.
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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2003, 09:46:36 PM »
Until my friend "James" (pseudonym ;-) ) can get through a session without the machine blowing up, it ain't bug-free. This guy runs software that runs rock-solid for everyone else and somehow—much to his chagrin—he gets it to crash. :-D

Of course, unless he's an official betatester, they're just going to have to release the thing to find that out. :-D
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Re: The shock evidence that proves the Amiga One is a time machine
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2003, 10:09:12 PM »
@ Cojo

Err, Umm. flux capacitor.

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