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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 30, 2005, 07:56:46 PM »
That might actually be a tricky question, even if comparable computers are for sale in the destination country.

I've recently had to learn a little about USA export regulations. You'd have to talk to some customs person to get a solid answer regarding your particular harware to that particular country. The law is complex, and you'd really have to find someone that knows it enough to give you a definitive answer, and don't trust anyone here unless they work in USA customs or whatever other government agencies deal with that stuff.

Did you know that an employee in a USA office of an international company can NOT transfer the silicon/schematic design for an FPGA larger than 40000 gates capacity to an office of the same company but in a different country, unless there is an export exception license for that particular item? Yup.
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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2005, 08:46:33 PM »
I cannot see why it would not be legal, but for norway i doubt the cost would be cheaper, because of our nazi toll customs.. First you have to pay the normal 25% vat to the gov, but then you also have to pay a fee to the customs and postal service for doing the toll job.. I have heard that people use a loophole by sending it as a gift, but i doubt that would work on such a big item as a computer.
 

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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2005, 08:48:36 PM »
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Your friend will have to pay import taxes plus VAT though.

AHA!!!  And how much is this "import tax"?

How much is the VAT on a new computer?[/quote]
Here in norway it is 25% on everything with the exception of certain food items..  :-(
 

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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2005, 09:34:36 PM »
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Elektro wrote:
Why wouldnt it be legal?


Because loads of stuff is illegal in the tyrannical European Empire.

Anyway, if it was legal to go around shipping products to Europe then everything in Europe would be the same price as in USA.  But in fact everything costs LOTS more in Europe.


:lol:

I would hazard a guess that the reason that everything is more expensive here is because of higher taxes. And what do taxes fund? War in Ira..I mean hospitals, schools, infrastructure, etc



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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2005, 12:47:01 AM »
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ppc4me wrote:
>All I know is I bought a new 80GB drive a couple of days ago for $5.00 at the local store. My brother got one also.

>2 weeks ago they had a 300GB Seagate drive for $90.00 at the same store.

It's not cool to buy "fallen off the back of a lorry" stuff! :-o
I doubt it was stolen.
American retailers have kickass clearance sales.
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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2005, 02:59:16 AM »
Also better make sure it doesn't have an OS installed... Windows 2k, XP here has high encryption technology that is illegal to export outside of the US... I also recall something about Germany banning the disk defragmenter because it's made by a company owned by a "known Scientologist."  :crazy:
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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2005, 06:50:01 AM »
Do they ban Tom Cruise films too?
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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2005, 07:13:22 AM »
I'm no expert but this is what I think I know about taxes:

Customs taxes or import taxes is an old way to regulate the market. It is mainly done to protect the companies of the country. It adds taxes on imported goods so that people prefer to shop from local companies rather than send money out of the country.

A lot of countries have had this kind of taxes until they have joined trade agreements with other countries. Like the EU, NAFTA and similar.

Some times special kind of goods get very high import taxes if the goods are in direct competition. For instance I believe both the EU and the US add high taxes to food from Africa or South America.

In additions customs are also used to regulate dangerous or illegal material being imported, like drugs, arms or similar.

As for any countries being more tyrannical than others, I don't think the EU is any worse than the US, and other countries might be even "worse" or more protective.

Value adding tax, or VAT, is generally added within a country to alter the price levels of goods. This both to regulate the usage of goods, to compensate for damages or costs infilicted by them or just as a convinient way to bring more money to the government and spread it on other social benefits.

This levels vary of course from country to country. Some countries have separate taxes in addition for "damaging" goods, like tobacco or liquor.

In Norway we've had very strict laws regarding alcohol, and still have high taxes. They are intended to lower usage and to spend the tax money for hospital bills or other damages caused on society.

I don't think people agree on wether it actually helps to get the usage/abuse down, as people are more likely to try to make their own alcohol or illegally import such things (or buy it from people who do).

We're seeing lowering taxes on import and export throughout the world and markets are getting more and more open as countries adapt to a global economy, but there are still very few countries that don't protect their own markets using this kind of taxation or restrictions.

As for sending a parcel from the US to Norway, you would probably sign a standard form stating its content and its price, and wether it's a gift or not. The recipient would get a notice that he has got a parcel and a request to process it thru customs, he can conviniently let the Postal service do that or choose some own methods. If it's a gift, I believe there will be no taxes added.

If it's a purchase he gets the usual VAT added (added to all goods bought in the country), and depending on the type of goods or price, gets another import tax added.

Currently we can import goods that are worth less than 200 NOK without any taxes added, at least this is true for online shopping. I'm not sure what the level is for travelling into the country with goods, as there are separate tax-free rules and similar.

I hope this answered some of the questions and that I'm not presenting incorrect statements ;)
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Re: Is it legal for an American to mail a new computer to Norway or Sweden?
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2005, 08:20:21 AM »
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Cyberus wrote:
Do they ban Tom Cruise films too?


Why? thinking of moving there? ;-)