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AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« on: November 06, 2005, 05:33:18 PM »
I mean, how comes it costs 600/900 euro? I think these prices are completely out of the market.
 

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2005, 05:36:02 PM »
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CHR_ZD wrote:
I mean, how comes it costs 600/900 euro? I think these prices are completely out of the market.


Supply/demand? ;-)
You try finding one for sale right now.....

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2005, 05:39:05 PM »
the fact that there are not any for sale means no one is buying at those prices.
 

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2005, 06:02:45 PM »
Well saying that even Apple has decided to stop using G3-G4 processers, who knows what the future is???
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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2005, 06:48:22 PM »
I don't think Apple's decision will have as much effect on the
supply of PPC chips available (or its future) as many people
are making it out to be.  There are many devices that use
PPC as its core, (xbox360 just to name one mainstream device).
Apple was only one school of fish in the sea, there are still
plenty others.

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2005, 07:13:44 PM »
well thanks to the great decision of making an obsolete ppc custom motherboard many won't never use amiga os 4.0 or morphos... nice move! at least pegasos is a bit cheaper and a better hardware.

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2005, 07:53:16 PM »
For crying out loud it is a developers' prerelease box for running a developers' prerelease of the OS to bring some native code to the OS4 platform before the official release.

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Do you realize that most people that run XBox 360 games will never own an XBox 360 DevKit?  Do you realize that most Playstation 3 owners will never own a PS3 DevKit?

Granted I like using my MicroA1 for whatever I do with it but when it suddenly locks up (due to me never adjusting the core voltage up) I don't have a fit.  It just needs some adjustment.  The quirks may never be worked out of it but I need it to be able to compile code on.
 

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2005, 08:32:40 PM »
You're saying that when AOS4 comes out, there will be an all new, shiny A1 waiting for us to install it on? Wake up, man. :roll:
 

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2005, 09:13:01 PM »
I know that when OS4 comes out that I´ll be as fast as I can  to install it on my classic Amiga´s  :lol:
But I know, it´s off the topic ...

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2005, 09:51:25 PM »
I think the truth is out there. I think that back in New Mexico a ship from another world crashed in the desert and our government got hold of it and began tinkering and they created the out of the guts of that craft a new computer.... the Amiga!! And now after all this time they realize that a really good hacker could extract from the inner workings of the Amiga proof that aliens had not only visited this planet but they had such superior technology that we were in deeep sh*t. By that time someone in the group had leaked a sample of the technology in the form of the first Amiga and it got out of their control. All the crazy decisions that the various owners of the Amiga technology made, all those impossibly stupid commercials, incompatible boards and software... even today... are designed to distract us from finding out where this all came from. That's why the Amiga will never do the right thing at the right time, and that's why it seems like they are deliberately screwing us over, the Amiga boosters, the ones who believe in it all. Otherwise none of it makes any sense. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2005, 11:22:56 PM »
It was obselete and overpriced when it first came out as well ... but remember, never under estimate the levels of insanity Amigans reach, the words "price", "performance", "sucker" all mean nothing so long as it has "Amiga" written on it somewhere  :-D
 

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2005, 11:32:52 PM »
Yes, it is obselete tech. But then it's a hell of a lot faster than anything else out there RESPONSE-wise.
Seriously, going from OS4 on my 800 Mhz G4 AmigaOne to using MacOS X on my brother's 733 Mhz G4 Mac was like stepping in treacle.
It's going to be a long ttime until anyone can go out and buy an Amiga, so accept the fact that you'll need to pay the premium to be at the bleeding edge of Amiga developments.
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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2005, 11:35:38 PM »
AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?

Now lets see. You can puzzle the answer together yourself with very little effort.

Question what is obsolete?
Obsolete; like replaced by something else. To be more precise; made useless because there is something better that does the same job.

Look at your subject.
Amiga; what makes it stand out today;
Great graphics? No, others do that better these days.
Multitasking? No, there are plenty alternatives.
Productivity? Err, not really standing out.
Multimedia? Not really standing out here too.
Games then? Not much unique the last years.
ehm....stability? Could be in the race here. But there are plenty alternatives.
Support? No comment.
Price? Looking just at perfomance and applicability and price. Hell no!
Hobbyism factor? Could be in the race here.

You can go on enlarging the list.
I stop here since most answers are negative.
I'd say it is very very much obsolete.
To be more precise; I wonder how the A1 creation can ever make a healthy profit. Just hobbyism I think. I don't think anybody really beleives it will take over the world or something. Why would you want it too?
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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2005, 12:48:32 AM »
Keep in mind quality, you can buy a speedy PC for £500 but the quality is rubbish, if you want top quality the same PC is £1000-1500. The A1 is quality, its not so power hungry as a PC. The specs on the A1 is about the same as an Xbox and the XBox has all the latest games!!!!

so all your paying is a couple of 100 extra something you really want???  
 

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Re: AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2005, 01:30:03 AM »
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For crying out loud it is a developers' prerelease box [...]


That is a patently false statement, and I wish people would stop repeating it. No "AmigaOne" has ever been sold with any "developer hardware", "beta", "pre-release" or similar label. No warnings, caveats or disclaimers have ever been issued or mentioned regarding the quality of or support for the hardware. All Terons that have passed through Eyetech to AmigaOS users have been sold as fully functional-as-advertised, licensed, tested and certified "AmigaOnes", with not only the expected normal minimum legislated consumer protection and warranties but with a supposedly even greater level of protection. All "AmigaOnes" were supposed to be the final hardware that customers were supposed to keep and use with AOS4 once that's released.

The "it's developer hardware" statement was issued retroactively by Eyetech in response to customer complaints about warranty and quality issues (in a "Q&A" session on aw.net, IIRC). It was a lie then, and it's still a lie.

Customers simply do not "develop" hardware that they've already bought (and as for software developers, they're likely to be more affected by faulty hardware than end-users, see e.g. the AOS4 development time wasted on trying to find workarounds for hardware bugs as well as adapting a new type of firmware).
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