Alan Redhouse revealed the impressive future of AmigaOne!!!!! (from AmiGBG 2003)

[Hooligan_DCS]

All I was giving was an example. Maybe you did not understand that  inside your little head. OS4 for Pegasos, like who in earth was going to do it? Nearly impossible.

And what's this piracy you're talking about? Piracy is almost non-existent on Amiga platform. Do I have to bend it out of a wire? For the price dongles they could have sent out those t-shirts.
I am not against the dongles principle, what it should do. I am against the fact that I will be the one paying for it for no reason what so ever.

Also, how are Genesi any better? Where's the A1 version of MorphOS? Since the Pegasos doesn't have a dongle I should be able to freely download MOS for my AmigaOne, no?

You will be able to download a free MOS for PowerUp cards anyway. MOS for A1? Well why not.. maybe later.

Special thanks for being so polite.

[Helgis75]

I'm very excited at the moment! I will have my A1G4XE mobo really soon now!!!!! :-)  :-)  :-)  :-D  :-D

[Red_Melons]

@Helgis75:

"I'm very excited at the moment! I will have my A1G4XE mobo really soon now!!!!!"

Have you heard anything direct from Eyetech?

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[JurassicCamper]

Helgis75 wrote:
I'm very excited at the moment! I will have my A1G4XE mobo really soon now!!!!! :-)  :-)  :-)  :-D  :-D

Easy Tiger..... you'll burst a blood vessel.
:-D  :-D

[Helgis75]

As Alan told himself, the boards were stuck in Cologne. Yesterday Alan should have received them from Cologne and Gunne should have them tomorrow. That's 30 of them..7 of them will be delivered directly to Datakompaniet in Norway, despite this being the first shipment of the boards, so i assume you get the picture correctly now..

Hope this info helps.. :-)

[Red_Melons]

The boards for AmiBG were stuck in Köln, but what about boards for the UK? Are they on their way from Taiwan or are they already at Eyetech?

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[Tafka]

Yes, I want to know that too.  How many boards are going to be available in the UK?

Surely enough have been produced to satisfy initial demand.

[Hammer]

How'd you like if major motherboard manufacturers would include a dongle making it possible to use only Windows as operating system?

Wrong premise.  Your point of view is flawed since various flavours of Linux and the planned AmigaOS 4.0 will be available for the AmigaOne.  To claim that AmigaOne will only run AmigaOS4.0 is flawed.

Try again.

Btw, most of my clients asked for MS Windows thus your premise is again flawed. I don't why you are using MS Windows as a negative factor when it a strength for selling mainstream PCs.

Obscures companies such as www.locus.com.au is a multi-dollar company due to servicing X86 Windows(and to limited extent X86 Linux) markets.

I am well aware of why it was included,

How could you know "why it was included" since your premise is wrong?

but I am totally against it as the consumer pays the extra price for something as useless as a dongle in AmigaOne.

A dongle is useful for limiting their use within authorised scope. Not on some other hardware which doesn’t financially benefit its creator.  

There is practically NO PIRATES left in Amiga-scene..

Such claims doesn’t hold water when there are illegal copies of Pagestream 4 (cited as an example) going around the Internet. (Such topics are outside the scope of this forum and should be dealt within the proper channels.)  

Software companies has the right (balanced with consumer’s rights)  to take any necessary steps to protect it’s software investments.

[Helgis75]

According to what i have read from the show and to what Alan said, i assume that Eyetech have got the boards. That means Gunne will have his boards tomorrow, and 7 of them will be handed directly to Datakompaniet in Norway.

So i believe that Eyetech just received them...

[Hammer]

Hooligan_DCS wrote:

 For the price dongles they could have sent out those t-shirts.
I

T-shirts is Amiga Inc’s issue not Hyperion or Eyetech.

[JurassicCamper]

Tafka wrote:
Yes, I want to know that too.  How many boards are going to be available in the UK?

Surely enough have been produced to satisfy initial demand.

None out of the batch Helgis is on about these are just for GGS.

Alan.. 29th March 2003

....Obviously there was a little delay setting up the testing procedures and
setting up the contracts, so they will take us about a week to get them over
because its too expensive to get them express freighted even if UPS can do
that, and thats why Gunnes boards are in Cologne, because thats where UPS
left them. But that means that we and the manufacturers have a very good
quality assurance procedure, and that means we can pass that on to you.
Overall, we think thats saving time and cost, and thats why you havent seen
them before now. The rest of the boards are being shipped this week, which
I define as starting tomorrow.

Which I interpret as....
Get them W/C 07/04/03 (DD/MM/YY)
But they can go straight out as they have been tested already.

I would assume previous annoucement parameters still apply.
Eg: Pre built systems first / boards in order date order.

[zudobug]

hehe. Does anyone really give a damn about those t-shirts?

I couldn't care less about the t-shirt personally. Maybe the coupong wasn't the wisest purchase ever made by myself and the other people that bought one, but it was a totally idiotic purchase if all we wanted out of it was a stupid t-shirt.

I bought one because I wanted to show my support, because it wasn't much money - maybe I'd been brainwashed by the updates... I don't know. Really don't care. I get to see the CAM and should get money off OS4 if I choose to buy it when it comes out. So what? Whatever!

[xaccrocheur]

olegil wrote:
(snip)
The firmware (U-Boot) will use serial port for stdin/stdout if you set the environment variables stdin/stdout to serial OR you remove the keyboard/vga card (autodetects...). Thus, you don't need a VGA card or a keyboard for a render-farm.

It has 66MHz PCI if you have a RAID controller or a gigabit ethernet card. Running in a 1U rack box without VGA but with IDE/SCSI RAID or GBE would make for quite a nice server, actually.
(snip)

If i'm understanding correctly, this machine can actually BOOT and operate without any KB and mouse connected to it. You can do that w/ a Mac, but then again good luck for telnet into it and fully operate it.

Very cool indeed. I'm starting to envision sexy LCD touch screens in emmbedded machines...

3 watts. I *love* that number !!!

This roadmap is looking VERY good.

pX

[xaccrocheur]

zudobug wrote:
hehe. Does anyone really give a damn about those t-shirts?

I couldn't care less about the t-shirt personally. Maybe the coupong wasn't the wisest purchase ever made by myself and the other people that bought one, but it was a totally idiotic purchase if all we wanted out of it was a stupid t-shirt.

I bought one because I wanted to show my support, because it wasn't much money - maybe I'd been brainwashed by the updates... I don't know. Really don't care. I get to see the CAM and should get money off OS4 if I choose to buy it when it comes out. So what? Whatever!

Good attitude, Zud. But mind you, one of the ONLY things that appealed to me about this coupon thing was 1-show support to the guys
2-the Damn T-Shirt !!

So yeah, they are not into fabric and garments, but hey, a promise is a promise. Heck, I'm gonna do this T-Shirt meself, and it's gonna read : I'm one of the 31 Amiga users in France

pX

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Hammer

Again, what I was trying to tell is that they are killing a fly with a shotgun, as in taking too big cautions for such little issue as pirated OS4 on something else than AmigaOne.
Let's face it, if someone is David Copperfield-enough to make OS4 work on Pegasos, the same indivual is talented enough to bypass that dongle protection.
But (lets) forget the dongle already, the thread wasn't about it at all.

The excuse of pirates making it too hard to do business  is gone. The lack of userbase is the real reason. What we have mostly left in Amiga community are probably not the most eager ones to pirate everything they get hands on. Trust me, as an ex-pirate group member.

[olegil]

For the price dongles they could have sent out those t-shirts.

Quite correct.

However, the "dongle" is also called "firmware" so I don't see how anyone could have made any profit from sending out boards without that component. Please tell me?