AOS4 & Amigaone

[Seehund]

FrankBrana wrote:
@Tiger

If everybody use UAE, wont be evolution at all in amiga land.Buy machines, AMiGA or PEGASOS, but support real machines. Yes these machines we dreamt for years, and now that are developed, everyone finds "flaws" on it.

C´mon. Support OS4, support MOS. Whatever option you choose, support real and modern hardware.

UAE runs on real and modern hardware. There is no Amiga hardware and no of evolution of such, and I don't think that many dreamt of poorly performing, faulty and overpriced Terons back when people used to think there one day could come new Amigas. That was when people wanted new Amigas because the old Amigas had lost against the competition due to poor performance and a high price!

So in case anyone would be interested in "supporting" a hardware vendor for their production of real and modern hardware, then he could do so by running UAE on such hardware. He would not do it by buying an "AmigaOne", which nowadays is only barely real (as in "available") and it's not more modern today than it was 4 years ago.

If we're supposed to think of what/who we're supporting when we buy something, then I think buying an "AmigaOne" is supporting consumer fraud, an unnecessary and mostly(?) unwanted monopoly, and stagnation of development. But all hardware vendors are commercial enterprises and shouldn't need "support" to be viable, at least not of the enforced "Amiga hardware licensing" kind. I think what you as a customer want and/or need is more relevant. Buy an "AmigaOne" or whatever because you like it or need it.

I feel no obligation to "support" Eyetech just because they have bought the rights to arbitrarily use a certain trademark for their distribution of 3rd party hardware. It's too bad that the current AOS4 sales model is apparently created to subsidise an otherwise irrelevant hardware vendor.

[Tigger]

FrankBrana wrote:
@Tiger

If everybody use UAE, wont be evolution at all in amiga land.Buy machines, AMiGA or PEGASOS, but support real machines. Yes these machines we dreamt for years, and now that are developed, everyone finds "flaws" on it.

C´mon. Support OS4, support MOS. Whatever option you choose, support real and modern hardware.

Amithlon would have allowed revolution on x86 hardware, it was done years ago, and we would have had 2 or 3 major updates since then. AROS will eventually supass that effort and will be open source.  We don't need to build our own hardware (AmigaOne) to update the OS to PPC (or x86 for that matter).  Macs are plentiful, at this point Pegasos' are available as well.  AmigaOne aren't being manufactured now, and when they were, were more expensive then either of those alternatives, weren't as powerful and weren't being repaired under warranty (the biggest complaint of them all).  Plus the AmigaOne has the hardware problems brought on by the Articia.  I'm all for updating the OS, I'm against tying it to a faulty albatross called AmigaOne.   1 days production of the Mac Mini would more then double those using OS4.  At $100 (or even $150) a pop, there is literally 100's of 1000's of dollars worth of sales available on a Mac port.  Less for a Pegasos port, but even then lots of money, right now, OS4 has been sold to every AmigaOne owner, until it there is new hardware, there is no new OS4 sales.  Thats not good for Hyperion, and not good for the OS4 community.  The Troika folks have picked good parts for there design, but honestly I doubt they will have shipping hardware for Christmas, so we have no sales of OS4, till January or later, how is that better then doing a Mac port and selling the hell out of it??
   -Tig

[odin]

Imagine OS4 on now prehistoric Macs like my G3 Powerbook, it would mean it could run a rather quick and cool OS. OS X is just too damn slow on it and OS9...well that's just sucks almost as bad as Win95.