OS4 GUI

[star1]

I was wondering what the Gui of os4 is going to be,
will it be purley MUI or will it have it's own gui which is still in the making.
Disregarding OS4 technical features, the gui an integral part of an os. I feel Amiga os lacks good looking GUI!!
I have looked at the screen shots of os 4 and they suck big time!!!
Anybody out there know anythig?? :-)

[tonyw]

Don't expect big changes from OS3.x. The new AOS4 is basically a port to the new PPC hardware. Although there are some welcome new features, most of it is what we have known for years. Once it gets out in the field and people start to pay money to Hyperion, it might become worth their while to put some more work into it. But to start with, their brief was to port the mish-mash of OS3 to PPC.

tony

[Ami603]

I for sure know that the look of OS4 is amazing and configurable.Nothing like plain OS3.x.
:-D

[Nick]

The screenshots are only to show what can be done, and what can be customised. Amiga.inc have said that these aren`t how it will look, as they haven`t released the standard OS4 look yet. It will be a bit MUI like in that it will be very customisable, but not based on MUI, though it will still be used for programs which need it.

[jumpship]

Check out http://os.amiga.com/os4/ it has the feature list and screenshots showing the configurability of the interface.

JS

[Hooligan_DCS]

Coder's sick brains must have created those screenshots. Ugly fonts, , ugly textures, ugly colors and ugly icons :-)

Of course it was only for showing features...  

Maybe there should be a place on amiga.org where you can upload and download suitable textures and background images?

[Nick]

@Hooligan_DCS

Yes thats what Fleecy said at the WOASE. Well he didn`t call them sick :-)

[levelLORD]

Maybe there should be a place on amiga.org where you can upload and download suitable textures and background images?

Everything in time. There is no reason yet (no AOS4.0), but that is a great idea!

One of my friends was commenting how ugly all that stuff looks, and how winXP looks superior comparing to new AOS MUI, and I didn't want to argue, there is no point. I'm sure that a lot of people will contribute with their own graphical solutions and there will be a lot of skins to DL. Still, if he's checking amiga.com to see what is going on there, maybe that is not too bad after all I'm just waiting to see what will happen when M$ release their TCPA platform. There will be a lot of ppl disabled to do things which they used to do. If there is no option for MP3's or DivX movies, they will search for something else (some other os/platform). Not to mention that on TCPA platform user dont have root access, which means no privacy. I just hope when all that starts to happen, Amiga will have new OS with all must have applications, office, at least mozilla or opera browser, vector and bitmap drawing software, video editing tools, and all other little gadgets that are existing on all other platforms. And games, of course. New games.

regards

levelLORD

[Rogue]

The gui framework used will be Reaction. MUI is there for backwards compatibility, we encourage people to use Reaction, though.

The term "good-looking GUI" is enough for some people to start a Jihad. I can tell you that the screenshots seen so far are not going to be the default look (yes, we heard the thing about the colors over and over - but you'll agree that the colors was something that could be changed in the 1.2 preferences already).

A lot of stuff was changed in Intuition under the hood, but also a lot was done to improve the looks and make it customizable. You will not be able to customize every aspect of the GUI with OS 4.0, but things will be added later with 4.1 and 4.2. However, you will be able to change a lot without going for patches - the functionality of VisualPrefs and Birdie are now part of Intuition.

Just to prevent people coming up with the rumour that intuition V50 is based on Birdie, I am talking about functionality not code. You'd think that it wouldn't be required to explicitly say something like that, but after hearing some of the rumours coursing around I feel inclined to point this out.

Having said this, I can already vividly imagine the comments about the new Intuition default look. If you ask ten people about how a good looking GUI should look like, you will get at least 12 different answers.  :-D

[Rogue]

Hooligan_DCS wrote:
Coder's sick brains must have created those screenshots. Ugly fonts, , ugly textures, ugly colors and ugly icons :-)

Well, fortunately colors and fonts can be changed since quite some time...

Of course it was only for showing features...  

Indeed. It was there to show to what degree the look can be changed. Taste is obviously quite diverse, and I am glad about that :-)

Maybe there should be a place on amiga.org where you can upload and download suitable textures and background images?

What about Aminet?

[jd997uk]

Having said this, I can already vividly imagine the comments about the new Intuition default look. If you ask ten people about how a good looking GUI should look like, you will get at least 12 different answers.  

Too true. What one man may call subtle, another calls boring. What one man calls exciting another calls loud.
Still, we've all seen the variety of looks available to users of OS3.x with all the hacks and patches available now. With that kind of scope available without having to use patches should enable even the most fussy of users to get the most comfortable of looks to suit them.

Suit you Sir?

-john

[Hooligan_DCS]

Having said this, I can already vividly imagine the comments about the new Intuition default look. If you ask ten people about how a good looking GUI should look like, you will get at least 12 different answers.  

That is true. We had a comparison between friends and the best ones were always our own ones. Even the one with AGA 256 coloured 640x512 hires-laced man said he has the best looking OS of us all :-)

[ikir]

Ami603 wrote:
I for sure know that the look of OS4 is amazing and configurable.Nothing like plain OS3.x.
:-D

I agree with you Ami603 :-)

[jumpship]

What about Aminet?

The only thing with Aminet is that people are free to put up thier own descriptions, which can make finding somethings diffacult. Having a website dedicated to textures and the like would be a nice idea... hmmm...

Hehe, how about a website hosted in AREXX on an AmigaONE using OS4 sharing out custimzations for the OS4 GUI? May have to look into that :-)

JS

[JurassicCamper]

jumpship wrote:

What about Aminet?

The only thing with Aminet is that people are free to put up thier own descriptions, which can make finding somethings diffacult. Having a website dedicated to textures and the like would be a nice idea... hmmm...

JS

I agree completely.

Winamps website for Skins is a great idea. You can get to see what they look like before you wast your time downloading them, installing them and deciding you dont like them.

@ rouge

Is there a theme directory for example.
Eg: Sys:prefs/themes

Eg theme for the wont of a better description has its own directory and gui.pref file or whatever in it.

Its would then be a standard place for themes to go
would make distribution of custom themes easier.

As i can bet no two people keep there birdie textures etc in the same place.

I like aminet and is great for classic software but for OS4 I think we need a site like download.com.

Maybe aminet.amiga.com if your reading HMetal

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