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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2005, 06:47:11 PM »
Lou,

No argument there.  Because of the neglect and outright attempts to destroy the community by some, we are hardly the community we used to be.

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2005, 07:13:58 PM »
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TjLaZer wrote:
Hey now that is a great idea!!!  Transfer all rights of Amiga, Inc to DOom Master, of Beaverton, OR!  He buys and sells, and refurbished enough Amiga computers, which is more than Amiga, Inc has done for years! LOL


LOL.  You know things are bad in Amigaland when the choice for CEO of Amiga is between Ryan Czerwinski and Doommaster.  But, in reality, could they really do a worse job than the previous CEO's?

Anyway, so long Garry and thanks for my T-shirt.

It would be absolutely the best thing for all concerned if Amiga Inc would now just disappear.  No more having to adhere to ridiculous licenses regarding platforms that AmigaOS can run on, no more $100 "name tax" for aforementioned platforms.  Cheaper hardware, more platforms, more users, more sales of OS4.  Everyone's a winner.
 

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2005, 08:00:00 PM »
What did BB do you you Wayne?

I'm still wondering if legally, Gateway ever actually got rights to the OS. IIRC the German court later ruled that the OS was not included when Gateway bought the rest of the "intellectual property".

IF somebody could find that ruling it could make it a lot easier to run AmigaOS 4.x on other PPC systems.
 

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2005, 08:12:13 PM »
@boing,

It's a long, sordid story involving over two months' pay that doesn't need to get rehashed at this point.  That doesn't mean that I will ever forget, or forgive and until he is willing to make amends to the facts of what he did, I will never let him forget it either.

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2005, 09:20:39 PM »
I am more amazed at the amount of people singing that {bleep}s praise. He did sweet {bleep} all for the amiga and he should be remembered as another leaving the wannabe titanic.

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2005, 09:49:46 PM »
Incidentally, who is John Grzymala? (owner of the KMOS.com domain and the name given on the corporate address for Amiga Inc). Is he just collecting mail or is his involvment deeper than that?
 

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2005, 09:59:43 PM »
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What did BB do you you Wayne?
:lol:

as Wayne said it's a long, horrible story....and someday some of us should write it down and sell a book.

or.... :idea:

"BBRV, The Movie"

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2005, 10:24:37 PM »
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Incidentally, who is John Grzymala? (owner of the KMOS.com domain and the name given on the corporate address for Amiga Inc). Is he just collecting mail or is his involvment deeper than that?


We had never heard the name either until the latest round of "musical hide the IP from creditors".

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2005, 10:26:51 PM »
Paul,

Having never met Garry Hare, I find your remarks a little unnecessary and incendiary.  There were lots of people who did bleep all for the Amiga but the fact that they tried still means more than those who intentionally tried to destroy the Amiga and it's community.

Wayne
 

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2005, 11:19:52 PM »
And perhaps we should leave it at that before the incendiary remarks get to the point of full throttle flamewars. I can sum up this entire discussion in 4 words: who. gives. a. {bleep}. It's no longer our concern what happens at AI, KMOS, AI, or whatever the vultures want to call themselves nowadays, we established that eons ago.

Let the past be the past, cherish your memories (in sofar that is possible), and MOVE ON!
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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2005, 04:43:35 AM »
> New CEO

What about Mr Frank Wilde?
On Feb. 2002, Mr Frank Wilde aka Mr Francis Wilde III became the chairman of Amiga Inc.
Mr Frank Wilde is the former CEO of Ravisent.

According to an unofficial source, Mr Wilde quits Amiga Inc several weeks later (running from Amiga Inc Office).

After Amiga Inc, Mr Frank Wilde become the CEO of Tarantela.
Tarantela was bought by Sun Microsystem several weeks ago.

Does Mr Frank Wilde return to Amiga Inc?

Is Netventures (Netherland) still the owner of Amiga Inc?
What about the telco company from India?

http://www.netventures.nl/ENG/portfolio.htm
 

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2005, 07:02:00 AM »
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It's no longer our concern what happens at AI, KMOS, AI, or whatever the vultures want to call themselves nowadays, we established that eons ago.


Are you positive that no aspect whatsoever of AInc's future can have an impact on our community? Cause I'm not.

In fact, I'm worried that when it's bad for AInc it might be bad for us too. Will this misery never end?

 

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2005, 07:39:29 AM »
Well said. I cannot see why a venture capitalist with common sense would invest money into the Amiga nowdays.

As a brand name "Amiga" is as good as "Commodore"... totally unknown to people younger than 20 years old, therefore useless. And most older ones remember it as a games machine, so its value is questionable. As you've said, only Jeri & Co would benefit from the present retro-mania.
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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2005, 09:51:33 AM »
@ thread/all

I don't know what's going on, no one really does. I think it's the issue.

AMIGA get's mentioned a lot, ok not a lot, but it's there to grab interest (Hey, what's that) even in places like slash dot.
I would say people do know what it is and where even.
The thing is, it's all vapour ware. Nothing really solid. A lot of promises, a lot of take overs a lot of changes but no real product and it's what people have come to expect. If and wehn we fianaly have a product and some develpoment for it, things will again pick up wispers will become noise etc.

We really do need a product, we needed one yesterday but we can't turn back time, so we need that product now. There is still plenty of room for it. The OS market is hardly swamped. There are 3 main varieties only. There is room.

As for the whole CEO thing, who knows.
That's the problem, the company responsible is so dam quiet they may as well not exist. All we can do is speculate and hang off a few words from someones e-mail. We have no difinitve answer as to what's going on. We can accept GH has washed his hands of A Inc, weather he is part of KMOS still, I don't know, no one knows what's round the corner.

M$ are also pretty quiet about new release dates, same with apple. Still at leat they make announcements and possible time frames. Look I don't like the way A Inc have done buisness, but that's my opinion. If we get an actual product  soon, we can all do our bit to promote it, weather talking about it to friends, news posts, or contributing programs and source. To be honest, I thnk the latter is the most important thing to start with, if you can code, you should code. coders talk, get help from others, interest builds, etc...... The thing is, we need a product first. It's getting do or die time. Unless we all leave AMIGA OS and plans right now and make a huge effort to go to AROS/Morph or something like Wayne was suggesting towards earlier.
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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2005, 10:56:06 AM »
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We can accept GH has washed his hands of A Inc, weather he is part of KMOS still, I don't know, no one knows what's round the corner.


Amiga is/was KMOS.

1. Amiga Inc sold AmigaOS to Itec but forgot to tell anyone, including Fleecy

2. KMOS bought AmigaOS from Itec

3. KMOS bought Amiga Inc

4. KMOS changed their name to Amiga Inc.

Of course KMOS never really existed except on paper.
 

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Re: Garry Hare No longer at Amiga Inc.
« Reply #44 from previous page: October 21, 2005, 11:06:27 AM »
@Lando

"Of course KMOS never really existed except on paper."
Yeah, but that's just speculation or your opinion

No one really knows anything is my point and that's no ones fault, we are like mushrooms.
Musshrooms as in - Kept in the dark and fed sh#$
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