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Offline SHADESTopic starter

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WINUAE and ReOrg
« on: October 07, 2005, 02:40:45 PM »
Hey all,

Have any of you noticed the problem with partition sizes in OS3.9 and ReOrg??

I have a nice 6 GB partition all FFS and working nicely, only problem is, ReOrg won't touch it giving bad pointer code errors.

Does anyone know of a good FFS de-frag prog for 6GB partitions and above?
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 02:43:26 PM »
If it's working nicely, why would you want to ReOrg it ? Are you really trying to defrag a Hard drive via *emulation* ?? I'm confused..
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 02:51:14 PM »
Sorry if that confuses you. :)
FFS is not a very fragment free file system.
Infact, it's quite bad especially with a lot of smaler files.
Yes I am running emulation.

Emulation or not isn't the point really.
If the data is spread out over the drive, it takes longer to load and
can be a problem when editing. I have an 800MB Workbench partition
that I can defragment no problem and it keeps it nice and fast.

What I would like to know is if there is a program that can defragment
my 6 GB hdd which is using FFS or do I really have to get nasty and
install a better file system like PFS to keep the fragmentation down.

I do a lot of sound editing work so this is important for me :)
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 03:18:13 PM »
Maybe it's because your drive is over 4 gigs?  I use ReOrg here all the time, but my drives are less that 4 gigs.
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2005, 03:29:47 PM »
Try to copy all the data to another partition, and then back again...

(use it as a backup process as well)
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2005, 03:31:53 PM »
Blob, that's 6 gig of stuff!

is there no program around?
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2005, 03:37:12 PM »
Why not defrag under Windows instead of from inside UAE?  That might make a difference.
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2005, 03:41:39 PM »
@Vincent
Because he apparently doesn't use the WinUAE virtual filesystem, but actual imagefile with FFS on it.

Why anyone would want to use that, I dunno...

And indeed, ReOrg can't do >4GB.
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2005, 03:46:15 PM »
Actually I use a 3 1/2 inch IDE drive plugged in via USB at work on my XP box that I can plug back in via a piggy back cable and swith at home directly in to my AMIGA all in a nice little alulminium case with a external power supply.

Next step will be to make a small transportable yet internal supply, perhaps battery pack?? Dunno yet.

That way, it's portable, bootable and I can take it to work with me.

Oh, no it's not a hard file. It's an AMIGA formatted IDE drive.
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2005, 04:30:34 PM »
ReOrg does not support large drives. Fact is it was writen years ago when a 80gig or even a 40 gig drive was not even a dream. As far as I know there are NO defrag tools for FFS. There are some for the newer replacment File systems. So you have only 3 things you can do. Do not defrag, Set new partitions under 4gig max, or change to one of the new file systems with defrager with no limit. :-?
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2005, 07:55:43 PM »
There is DiskMonTools, Aminet; the only one to support 64bit. And boy, is it slow...Under 4 GB ReOrg was 2-3 times faster.
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2005, 08:40:00 PM »
>> that's 6 gig of stuff!

I `drag and drop` 45Gb every month...



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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2005, 02:01:38 AM »
@Blobrana
God, that must take forever.
Looks like there is another tool request for some bright coder out there.

Files are only going to get larger with this hd tv cards etc, not that there are any esp for classic AMIs, still sound editing is bad enough now lol  I just hope it won't just be for OS4 only :-\


@Zipper
As for DiskMonTools, if it's really that slow, what Blobrana is suggesting may be quicker lol ;)

Looks like I will try install PFS on to it :)
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Re: WINUAE and ReOrg
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2005, 12:32:21 PM »
>>that must take forever.
Hum,
Just the same time as defragging (X 2)...

Just press the `enter` button as you nod off..

(just make sure you don`t have any `read only` files)
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