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A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« on: September 28, 2005, 04:17:17 AM »
Time to show off a little bit and to perhaps to encourage others by proposing a challenge to anyone that can provide pics of a better looking Amiga, as far as features, overall looks, practicality, and coolness are concerned. :-D

The image gallery doesn't do this baby justice, so I'll provide hosting for the high res pictures. Too bad my digital camera is only 2.1 megapixels...the pics could have been a bit more detailed I guess, but anyway...


This here ladies and gentlemen is the fastest classic Amiga. If you think that yours is faster...I'm listening. :-)

Specifications are the following:

Commodore Amiga 4000
Original High-Density floppy drive
Motherboard revision B
Kickstart 3.1 roms
Socketed Buster 11
Motherboard ram: 16MB fast / 2MB chip
Cyberstorm PPC 060/233 with 128MB ram on it
Grex 4000D PCI daughter-board
Realtek 8029 chipset PCI ethernet card
Terratec 128i PCI sound card
Voodoo 3 PCI video card
36GB U160 SCSI hard drive

Picture #1 and Picture #2 - here we see the first internals shot of the A4000 system. You can see the motherboard fast and chip ram memory. Fast memory contains four matching IBM 4MB FPM simms that are rated @ 70ns. Grex4000 daughter-board nicely replaces the original Commodore one and starting from the top, Ethernet, Sound, and Voodoo 3 PCI cards are inserted in it. The internal SCSI-3 chain ends with the internal to external 68-pin converter and is then terminated with an external 68-pin active SE terminator. I've decided to not use an internal CD drive in order to give the PSU less stress and to leave some more breathing space for other components. When I need CD access I simply remove the external 68-pin terminator and insert an upper-byte passthrough 68-pin to DB25 terminator, and then I can easily connect my external Fast SCSI-2 burner, which is actually a 52X Sony IDE burner converted to SCSI through one of those Acard IDE-to-SCSI gadgets, sitting in an external SCSI-2 case. ;-)

Picture #3 and Picture #4- top view of the internals. As you can see, there's not much internal cabling that is in the way, as I've minimized internal cabling as much as possible. SCSI chain is connected through the blue round cable which is just right size wise. It's a must as flat SCSI cables are really a pain to deal with in regards to little space available with A4000 desktop case. Perhaps I should also seek for an amiga compatible round floppy cable. CSPPC has been upgraded with a 12V fan that is much taller than the original one, and it's a quality Sunon type. I've also managed to find four matching Micron brand FPM 32MB 60-ns non-parity SIMMS for it. :-) The hard drive is a very speedy Fujitsu 36GB U160 SCSI hard drive that can go slightly faster than 30MB/sec in OS3.9. The hard drive cradle has been isolated from touching the Grex4000 daughter-board with some isolation tape which can't be seen from this picture. The original Commodore A4000 clear isolator had to be removed as after installing Grex4000 there's no more space for it to be fit and I didn't want to trim it down and ruin it, so I've improvised. ;-) Battery on the motherboard is brand new of course, and the old one never leaked so the motherboard is as mint as it gets. :-D There is also an IDE-killer header installed over the 40-pin IDE port so this system has no IDE chain scan delays upon power up.

Picture #5 - back of the case. You can see the SCSI terminator lighting up, indicating working and proper termination. ;-) You can see the standard back connectors, including the extra PCI ones from Ethernet, Sound, and Voodoo 3 cards.

Picture #6 and Picture #7 - show the outside, final look. Everything but the floppy drive face-pate is as white as it gets. The 4000 badge still has the protective slip over it. ;-)

The only few things that I would like this setup to improve on would be getting a round floppy cable, perhaps changing Terratec 128i with a 512i digital card, and obtaining a non-yelowish floppy drive...however the one that I have now works perfectly fine, so no need to change it yet. :-D


Let the contest begin! ;-) Judges?
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2005, 04:43:21 AM »
!!!!! I want that Amiga.  :-D  :-)

Wow! I remember sitting down in 2001 and mapping out what I wanted in an Amiga, and that right there was it!  :-o  :-)
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Mine!  :-D
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2005, 05:30:32 AM »
So, uhhh, ... how much??  :-P
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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2005, 07:11:00 AM »
Looks like I need to take some pix!!!!

Look at my tag and TREMBLE!!!!!

Yes, you'll get to see the hot swappable external SCSI-3 RAID  tower asembly stripped from a IBM server...

BOO-YAH!!!

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2005, 07:57:10 AM »
@ X56

Nah, I think I prefer my setup:

A4000T (16mb RAM on mobo)
PPC/233 & 060/64 (128mb RAM)
DKB3128 (128mb RAM)
PIV with Paloma and Concierto
Ultrawide SCSI HD (on Cyberstorm SCSI)
2 SCSI II HDs (on the onboard 4091)
CDRW
IDE-CF adapter with emergency 512mb CF boot
Genlock, ZIP, printer, etc
oh yeah, and a proper frikken battery and socketed CIAs ;)

I guess the only problem with my setup is that it is not mint as far as the case is concerned. But inside it is nice enough.
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2005, 11:05:17 AM »
I would add one condition to this contest:

-you bought that Amiga as NEW, and  all the parts like PPC, etc... as well

(in that case, I have only one, broken ATM, A500..)
Better sorry than worry.
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2005, 12:28:06 PM »
@X-ray:
Are you running the 060 AND the bus at 64 MHz, or have you used an extra 64MHz oscillator for the 060 only? Is it stable? I kinda want to do a single-oscillator hack (run everything off a single 64 MHz oscillator, including the PPC. rumor has it that this is somewhat faster in some aspects than having unsyncronized PPC/060/System clocks).

But rumor also has it that the CS-PPC system bus (SCSI, 'glue-logic' and so on) might become unstable at speeds above 60 MHz, that's why I'm asking.

Anyways, here's my miggy:http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?u=771

AT A4000T, CS-PPC-200/060-60, 128MB Fast, 18 GB UW-SCSI HD, 16x10x40 Yamaha SCSI CD-RW, CV-PPC, Kickflash, Delfina Plus, Ariadne2, OS3.9BB2, MOS 1.4.5
The harddrive and the CV-PPC were bought new, all the other stuff was bought used.

Just received an A4000D today, and after some serious cooling mods I'll move the stuff over to it and sell the A4000T. :-? And perhaps buy a G-rex.

btw Nenad: Has that keyboard ever been used? It looks brand new  :-)
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2005, 01:26:51 PM »
@PaSha

What??? Sell an A4000T for a desktop 4000??? I'd keep the 4000T.
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2005, 01:45:18 PM »
I fully understand PaSha I must say. I wouldn't mind running my A4000 in the standard desktop case, but to much of my hardware needs cooling, and for the moment I wouldn't like to ditch my 2 x CD drives.

I have thought about using an external SCSI box for a desktop setup like my WarpEngine setup does, but since I haven't got a nice looking desktop case, it's not a plan for the near future. In case I do it, then I would go Mediator instead of course :-)

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Btw, nice looking setup you got there Nenad.
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2005, 01:54:41 PM »
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Steady wrote:
@PaSha

What??? Sell an A4000T for a desktop 4000??? I'd keep the 4000T.



C= A4000T: Big, bulky, but still rather nice looking. Impossible to find.

AT A4000T: Big&ugly.

C= A4000D: Small, not ugly, but not beautiful either.

I haven't quite decided what to do with the CD-RW drive, maybe I'll throw it out and stick it in a external SCSI case. Or maybe stick a slim-line drive in there. Time will tell.

The most beautiful Amiga IMHO, is the A3000D. But this case is 'ugly on the inside', the lack of space is awful, especially for a CS-PPC+CV-PPC combo.

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2005, 02:12:16 PM »
The C=3000T C=3000 040T be my flavor to savor. SCSI all the way.. :-)
:-o But I always liked apple butter on my hamburgers!!! :roll: and somtimes they think they have it when they don\\\'t, even when it is there  :lol:
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2005, 02:20:54 PM »
come on A3000D owners.. I know some of you have some awesome machines!!!  I <3 A3000's!!

Nenad: that is a very clean A4000!!  
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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2005, 02:51:46 PM »
@J-Golden:

Nice. I've been thinking of expanding my A4000T with a Mediator, however for now it's basically still around the stock config. Quikpak 4060 w/128MB ram, 16MB motherboard fast ram, 2MB chip ram, 18GB SCSI HD, HD floppy drive, and a SCSI cd drive. There's a few pictures of it in the image gallery.
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2005, 02:54:33 PM »
@X-ray:

Sweet setup. It seems like you've really utilized the extra space of the A4000T to the max.
 

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Re: A contest! Best classic Amiga of A.org! :-)
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2005, 03:02:40 PM »
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I fully understand PaSha I must say. I wouldn't mind running my A4000 in the standard desktop case, but to much of my hardware needs cooling, and for the moment I wouldn't like to ditch my 2 x CD drives.


Exactly one of the reasons why I didn't install an internal CD drive and why I used a Voodoo 3 2000 PCI card instead of 3000. 2000 produces way less heat than 3000, and it feels like the performance gain of 3000 with Amiga is minimal.

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I have thought about using an external SCSI box for a desktop setup like my WarpEngine setup does, but since I haven't got a nice looking desktop case, it's not a plan for the near future. In case I do it, then I would go Mediator instead of course :-)


I am a big fan of Grex so naturally I had to get the 4000D version :-) ...however if I were unable to find one then I would have gone with Mediator 400Di, for sure. What I like about Grex4000 is that it utilizes the CSPPC PCI bus, thus offering faster performance, and not to mention the availability of the video slot on it, unlike Mediator 4000Di. Of course, Mediator is way better supported so that counts for a lot of points for it. :-)

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Btw, nice looking setup you got there Nenad.


Thanks. :-) I'm thinking I should post pictures of the A1200T next.