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Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« on: March 25, 2003, 01:47:09 PM »
Hiya

I know for a fact that this great machine makes this possible :

What is the quickest way to Create a RAD:, copy the 3.1 WB files to it a make the appropriate assigns ?

That way I can fiddle with the setting w/o swapping disks, and I even can soft reset w/o losing it !

If there is some sort of readme for that, please point me to it !

thanks !

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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2003, 02:05:57 PM »
Sorry, this is not a reply, rather an additional question - someone mentioned that RAD can be created in Fastram, rather than the default Chipram.  How?
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2003, 02:57:24 PM »
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What is the quickest way to Create a RAD:, copy the 3.1 WB files to it a make the appropriate assigns ?

Open Storage disk or drawer. Open DOSDrivers drawer. Drag RAD to your boot disk Devs/DOSDrivers -drawer. Choose the RAD icon, select Icon/Information. Change highcyl tooltype to 79. The actions above are needed only once.

Mount RAD (by doubleclicking the icon, or by mount RAD: from shell).

DiskCopy DF0: RAD: NOVERIFY

Remove disk from floppy drive, reboot.

Obviously you can also use normal Copy command to fill up the RAD disk if you don't want to copy from a floppy. In this case you can also make the RAD disk larger than 880k, just set the HighCyl higher. HighCyl is (size_in_kb) / 11 - 1.

Once set up and mounted:
Copy CLONE ALL Work:radwb RAD:
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2003, 03:05:16 PM »
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someone mentioned that RAD can be created in Fastram, rather than the default Chipram.

RAD doesn't use chipram.

ramdrive.device (that handle RAD) use MEMF_KICK memory for the drive. That is memory that is available at the early stage of the system startup. Some sucky accelerators don't add the memory early enough to system, and thus the memory doesn't have MEMF_KICK set. Thus, the only MEMF_KICK-memory available is the chipmem.

There are several solutions to this, one being the use of BlizKick and its' LocalFast module.
There are some other hacks too that "fix" this, but I'll let the others fill these in...
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2003, 03:13:43 PM »
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What is the quickest way to Create a RAD:, copy the 3.1 WB files to it a make the appropriate assigns ?

Open Storage disk or drawer. Open DOSDrivers drawer. Drag RAD to your boot disk Devs/DOSDrivers -drawer. Choose the RAD icon, select Icon/Information. Change highcyl tooltype to 79. The actions above are needed only once.

Mount RAD (by doubleclicking the icon, or by mount RAD: from shell).

DiskCopy DF0: RAD: NOVERIFY

Remove disk from floppy drive, reboot.

Obviously you can also use normal Copy command to fill up the RAD disk if you don't want to copy from a floppy. In this case you can also make the RAD disk larger than 880k, just set the HighCyl higher. HighCyl is (size_in_kb) / 11 - 1.

Once set up and mounted:
Copy CLONE ALL Work:radwb RAD:



Just what I needed !

thank you Piru !  ;-)

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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2003, 03:57:26 PM »
I know that the highcyl has to be an odd, positive number, also, it uses up the ram, whether it's empty or full, and can't be changed in size, after it is made.

As far as I know, you can't make more than 1.

These apply to 1.3.3. Probably to all the other versions as well.

When you re-boot, all the assigns will be set to the rad:

But, you may need to use the
Install rad: boot
command, before it will boot off of the rad:

Also, I got the impression in 1.3.3, that the rad: could be set to survive 1 OR multiple re-boots, depeng on a mountlist setting.

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Read here:
Hardware Issues and discussion
RamDisk the DoubleEged Sword
 Billsey mentioned a good program to use for fast ram ON accelerators.

Check "startup-sequence" and any other scripts run on startup for direct references to df0: or named floppies.

If you still have probs, ask, if this helped, that is.

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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2003, 04:06:24 PM »
Some copy protected games can be run in ram:, rad:, (I have tricked them in various ways) and that is COOL, unfortunately, some put a delay in, knowing at certain points disk access is happening, those are a downer.

AmigaOne! Feed those 640 Meg games to my 1.8 Gig ram drive!!!!!!! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

Can you do THAT on linux, muc, xp, 95/98????
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2003, 04:16:32 PM »
A really good tip is to add this entry to the tooltype ( edit the icon)

Buffmemtype=5

That way you`ll use fast memory to hold the rad: device. ( or ram: device).

BTW If you do need to use both fast and chip mem then:
Buffmemtype=3

And If you  need to use just chip mem
Buffmemtype=1

(i think) :-D
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2003, 04:50:22 PM »
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As far as I know, you can't make more than 1.

Wrong. Just change the unit number.

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But, you may need to use the
Install rad: boot
command, before it will boot off of the rad:

Wrong. RAD is always bootable.
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2003, 04:53:20 PM »
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A really good tip is to add this entry to the tooltype ( edit the icon)

Buffmemtype=5

That way you`ll use fast memory to hold the rad: device. ( or ram: device).

BTW If you do need to use both fast and chip mem then:
Buffmemtype=3

And If you need to use just chip mem
Buffmemtype=1

Wrong. You can't use these with ramdrive.device, it always use MEMF_KICK memory.

Clarification: BufMemType only affect on which type memory is used for the *filesystem* buffers, eg fastfilesystem buffers. This has nothing to do with the actual device (ramdrive.device) memory buffers. So you cannot move the RAD to chip or fast mem with BufMemType.
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2003, 08:55:50 PM »
My RaBig (4000 cyl) doesn't necessary fit to my Chip Ram...
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2003, 11:28:35 PM »
whoops ,
My mistake ...(i should know better)

tnx, for the correction.

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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2003, 11:37:15 PM »
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2003, 12:33:21 AM »
That doc is wrong. BufMemType 1 means public memory, not chip mem.

And yet again, this is ONLY the filesystem buffer memory type, not the type of the actual device memory, which will always be MEMF_KICK.
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Re: Quick setup of a RAD: WB
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2003, 01:15:14 AM »
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