Install this SCSI CD-Rom... GRR

[xaccrocheur]

Hi

I've been trying to no avail to install this TEAC SCSI CD-Rom on my A4K, and Scuzzy on Amiga is something new to me.

Needless to say, the CD-Rom drive has been tested, it worked flawlessly on a Linux PC attached to a 2940 SCSI board.

What I want to do :
# Install this CD-Rom on the 4K using a floppy-based WB 3.1
# Install OS3.9 From the CD I just purchased.
# Finish to populate this SCSI chain with 2 more BIG Scuzzy drives.

Setup :
A4040 with 3.1 ROMs and 16 Mg RAM,
A GVP HC+8 Series II Rev. II Full of RAM (8Mg) with One HD For now (2 are waiting to be installed) that was the original one, I guess.
it's a 520Mg Conner SCSI drive, at least that's what HDToolbox is telling me, no indication of the size on the drive. There is a 3.1 WB installed on it, but I don't quite "trust" it. Lots of patches, refers to HardWare no longer present, etc.

What I'm trying to do is to just setup a floppy WB that would allow me to access the CD.

When I load HD ToolBox, (yes I *did* edit the tooltype from scsi.device to gvpscsi.device) I cannot see the CD, no matter what I try. I do see the Conner drive.
When I tried my other Scuzzy HDs, it showed nonsensic values, and refused to write to it (write error 25 I guess)
that's why I want to install them under OS 3.9 only.

I did put a CD0 DOSdriver in DEVS:, with also the right "gvpscsi.device" in the tooltypes, but no luck getting it to mount.

No way to CD into it from a shell too

What Am I missing ?
Is this GVP Board auto-terminated (I'm not using external units) or should I set some jumper ?

Can somebody tell me what a mountlist is, I mean, what mine should look like ?

Please help, I'm getting pissed off and already broke a thing just to calm down  :-x

pX

[edderkop]

is it this you got ??
gvp :-?

[xaccrocheur]

edderkop wrote:
is it this you got ??
gvp :-?

Yup, exactly. It makes thos total amount of RAM 24Mg, and DMA, witch is pretty cool.

Now I have no other indications about the board's SCSI bus. I saw no termination Jumper, but I'm really fearing that it has to be physically terminated...

But hey one question : If I *do* have a termination problem, is it normal that the Conner drive is still mounting w/o problems ?

I hope I make meself clear with my Iraqi English  :-P

Thanks for help. I'm about to BEAT the kids just to chill me out  :-P

pX

[edderkop]

@xaccrocheur

Now I have no other indications about the board's SCSI bus. I saw no termination Jumper, but I'm really fearing that it has to be physically terminated...

you are correct you have to teminate the scsi chain youself but some scsi drives have a jumper on the back  to teminate it.(does not work alle the time tho)  ;-)

[MikeB]

You need to check the SCSI ID in HDTOOLBOX for your CDROM, which ever number is shown will be your CD mount number i.e  CD0 or CD1 or CD2 or CD3 or CD4 etc..

Recheck your SCSI number on the CDROM!

[edderkop]

@erol

You need to check the SCSI ID in HDTOOLBOX for your CDROM, which ever number is shown will be your CD mount number i.e CD0 or CD1 or CD2 or CD3 or CD4 etc..

this is not correct the id and mount number is not the same thing.

[xaccrocheur]

edderkop wrote:
@xaccrocheur

Now I have no other indications about the board's SCSI bus. I saw no termination Jumper, but I'm really fearing that it has to be physically terminated...

you are correct you have to teminate the scsi chain youself but some scsi drives have a jumper on the back  to teminate it.(does not work alle the time tho)  ;-)

Oh yeah I know that, but I was wondering : some old scuzzy boards wants, well *needs* to be terminated on BOTH ends, the internal way (it's OK, I *do* have auto-terminating units) AN the external, with either a Plug or a jumper. If somebody knows this detail about the GVP HC+8, please post so.

Hell, I'm trying ALL LUN Combinations !

I'm really wondering about this "mountlist" bit : Don't I need one ?

pX

[xaccrocheur]

edderkop wrote:
@erol

You need to check the SCSI ID in HDTOOLBOX for your CDROM, which ever number is shown will be your CD mount number i.e CD0 or CD1 or CD2 or CD3 or CD4 etc..

this is not correct the id and mount number is not the same thing.

Yes, this was confusing, thanks, because I only have this CD0: in devs:, with the "gcpscsi.device" tooltype.

I'm sure there's something else to do right.

(Is'nt usenet GREAT ? I remember situations like that , only much less comfy when I was *alone* with my A500)

pX

[edderkop]

@xaccrocheur

I'm really wondering about this "mountlist" bit : Don't I need one ?

you shuld be able the scan the scsi shain and se all the devices there and you don't need a mountlist for that.
but to mount a drive like a hardrive or CDrom you need one but a scanner dont need a mountlist to be used.

[duesi]

I also use a TEAC (You can activate the termination
by setting the jumper) ofcourse only when the CD-ROM is the last in the SCSI chain...
You must set the SCSI ID in dosdrivers (CD0 by default) to the ID of the CD-ROM..

[xaccrocheur]

duesi wrote:
I also use a TEAC (You can activate the termination
by setting the jumper) ofcourse only when the CD-ROM is the last in the SCSI chain...
You must set the SCSI ID in dosdrivers (CD0 by default) to the ID of the CD-ROM..

AHA ! Now *this* I did not know ! Trying right away, thanx to all of you  8-)


Well now what I have is "UNIT=2", witch matches the LUN of the CD-Rom, but is this the correct syntax for a GVP one ? I'll try to change it to "SCSIUNIT=2"...

What I have in this damn icon's tooltypes :
Default tool : C:Mount
ACTIVATE=1
DEVICE:gvpscsi.device
UNIT=2

What is that activate bit ? Is this correct ?

pX

[duesi]

I think that must be OK..
Which CD-ROM Filesystem are you using ?

[edderkop]

@xaccrocheur

looks ok but what filesysem are you using. :-?

[xaccrocheur]

duesi wrote:
I think that must be OK..
Which CD-ROM Filesystem are you using ?

G00d question duesi !

[color=003333]I don't know[/color][/b][/i] ! 8-)  :-D

I know I suck, but in fact I NEVER used a CD-Rom with a Miggy, that's the reason !

I'm told that OS3.9 sorts this out, I mean namely ships with a proper CD FS, but now, a friend sent me his AsimCDFS setup... I really don't know where to start...

I mean, now I have the 3.1 ROMs, and the 3.1 WB handy, I though (I read someplace that 3.1 is *just* that : A 3.0 with CD "utilities") that it would work out of the box, at least for Scuzzy.

Please, explain the way to go as if I'm 4 years old ;-)

pX

[edderkop]

@xaccrocheur

try to look in L:  for CDFileSystem

or look at this standard cd0 setup:
/* $VER: CD0 40.6 (31.8.93)
 *
 * CD-ROM file system entry
 *
 * This file enables the CD-ROM file system which allows you to read standard
 * ISO-9660 CD-ROM disks from an Amiga with a SCSI or IDE controller.
 *
 * The "Unit" line defines the SCSI address of the CD-ROM drive. Drives
 * often come configured as unit 2, which is the default. Check the
 * documentation for your CD-ROM drive to find the exact SCSI address.
 * Note that most drives let you change this number using jumpers.
 */

FileSystem   = L:CDFileSystem
Flags      = 0
Surfaces   = 1
SectorsPerTrack   = 1
SectorSize   = 2048
Mask      = 0x7ffffffe
MaxTransfer   = 0x100000
Reserved   = 0
Interleave   = 0
LowCyl      = 0
HighCyl      = 0
Buffers      = 5
BufMemType   = 0
StackSize   = 1000
Priority   = 10
GlobVec      = -1
DosType      = 0x43443031

/* The Device and Unit fields are controlled by tooltypes in the CD0 icon.
 *
 * Device   = scsi.device
 * Unit      = 2
 */