Any other Brits find this image offensive?

[Darrin]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
That's another discussion.

A long one?   :-)

Anyway, have to run now - work calls.  Have a pint of Dutch beer for me as we're not allowed any out here.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Darrin wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
That's another discussion.

A long one?   :-)

Aye
And a difficult one too (at least, if we let it be :-/).

Anyway, have to run now - work calls.  Have a pint of Dutch beer for me as we're not allowed any out here.

Okay, cheers (pops open a nice "Gulpener" beer) :pint:

[bloodline]

mdma wrote:


Darrin's avatar, desecrating the Union Jack (In my opinion).

Since I'm not particular patriotic, I really could not care less what someone chooses to do with the union flag :-)

[blobrana]

Hum,
the tank is going to crush the flags anyway...

More to the point is Bloodlines avatar which is particularly tasteless given the recent tube way bombings...

[bloodline]

Perhaps more interesting is the fact that there are 47 replys in this thread... yet it's only been viewed 27 times :-?

Darrin wrote:
Would you care to explain your opinion?  I'd be interested to hear it.

The tank isn't really what offends me, it's the star spangled banner bolted onto it that does.

Also, feel free to explain why you didn't have the balls to at least PM me to join this debate.

Too busy.

[Darrin]

mdma wrote:
The tank isn't really what offends me, it's the star spangled banner bolted onto it that does.

I can't believe you can be so openly racist.  I don't know what disturbs me more, the fact that you're a racist or the fact that you're a racist in a teaching job.  As long as there are extremists like you on both sides then there will never be peace, but then you don't really want peace because then you'll have nothing to complain about.  Sad.

Too busy.

At least that's an honest and fair answer.

[Darrin]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Okay, cheers (pops open a nice "Gulpener" beer) :pint:

Drool!  

(Darrin open a can of Coke and pretends that it is beer)

I can't believe you can be so openly racist. I don't know what disturbs me more, the fact that you're a racist or the fact that you're a racist in a teaching job. As long as there are extremists like you on both sides then there will never be peace, but then you don't really want peace because then you'll have nothing to complain about. Sad.

It has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with politics.

I find it worrying that someone as obviously patriotic as yourself finds nothing wrong with associating the country you are proud of with the current regime controlling the USA.

I'm not even that patriotic either.

[odin]

FFS, what a friggin' useless piece of thread this is...

If you have problems with someone, someone's posts or someone's avatar pmail the person or contact an admin.

[cecilia]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

cecilia wrote:
why waste time talking about a picture when there's so much more to be offended by.

Because people "think" the way they act. A war does not simply begin with a gunshot, a war begins with propaganda.

that's not true, sweets.

honestly. I learned from my grandfather - who spend several years of his teenage years in the trenches exactly WHO is to blame for war.

politicians. their greed. their ego.

while he was sitting in water up to his waist he had no hatred of the germans across the way. he knew they were victims like he was. victims of the stupidity of politians who are too cowardly to fight their own fights. instead they send out others to "argue" for them.

morons.

if people truely understood this we would insist that all heads of governments who have issues with anyone else get into a ring and fight it out themselves. sort of like TV Wrestling. (which i never watch, btw).

that way, they wouldn't have to kill anyone else and might actually provide entertainment for those who like that sort of thing.  :-P

[Speelgoedmannetje]

cecilia wrote:

politicians. their greed. their ego.

You can't be a politician without support. So he/she must fit in the common sense, "the good thing to do". Propaganda is a very slow process of steering that common sense.

[Cymric]

cecilia wrote:
politicians. their greed. their ego.

Not always. In some cases, there is an escalating conflict over scarce resources---water, minerals, ports, oil. In other cases, religion is the underlying cause. In yet further cases, it is social inequality (Rwanda) or misguided ideas about what social system is 'right' and which is 'wrong' (capitalism vs. communism). A century ago, you could start a war because it was assumed there was honour and glory to be found on the battlefield. World War I took care of that misguided romantic idea forever.

Propaganda is just a means to an end, because nobody wants to start, let alone be in a war---it costs a heck of a lot of money and it costs lives of civilians too.

[cecilia]

all of that simply translates to stupidity that prevents people from logically discussing peaceful solutions to problems.

EGO.

[Karlos]

cecilia wrote:

if people truely understood this we would insist that all heads of governments who have issues with anyone else get into a ring and fight it out themselves. sort of like TV Wrestling. (which i never watch, btw).

that way, they wouldn't have to kill anyone else and might actually provide entertainment for those who like that sort of thing.  :-P

Or perhaps we can insist that our leaders actually have a nicely above average IQ and let them battle it out in chess or something :-)

[Dan]

Karlos wrote:

cecilia wrote:

if people truely understood this we would insist that all heads of governments who have issues with anyone else get into a ring and fight it out themselves. sort of like TV Wrestling. (which i never watch, btw).

that way, they wouldn't have to kill anyone else and might actually provide entertainment for those who like that sort of thing.  :-P

Or perhaps we can insist that our leaders actually have a nicely above average IQ and let them battle it out in chess or something :-)

Wouldn´t work for Stalin because he would send all the pawns to Sibria!!!! :lol: