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Offline Mr_Capehill

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2003, 11:35:26 AM »
@z5: It isn't completely true. As far as I know, Hyperion's income comes everywhere else than Amiga/Linux products  (games) :-(

One reason for the delay is (as the Friedens have said) that they have to do contract work to  support OS4 developing.

 

Offline Karlos

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2003, 11:44:52 AM »
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Warface wrote:

The problem is - their task is not to make a brand new Operating System. It's just port an existing operating system to a different architecture. It's not even an expectation to have all of it's parts PPC native. Everything is at their disposal - 68K emulators, AmigaOS sources, etc.


What you have got to keep in mind is that most of the AmigaOS kernel source is written for 68K, in asm. Just moving the code to C, whilst maybe not that difficult conceptually, is nonethless a time consuming task in itself.

Further to that, it isn't a port exactly. There are many features that are not present in previous versions of the OS, including a total rewrite of Exec, and other critical resources. Also, as far as I understand it, Hyperion are working hard to make the system as PPC native as possible.
What I'm trying to say is that there is a lot more work than people seem to think.

Anyway, nice to see that we have some positive opinions here too :-D
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Offline Warface

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2003, 12:01:52 PM »
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Karlos wrote:

What you have got to keep in mind is that most of the AmigaOS kernel source is written for 68K, in asm. Just moving the code to C, whilst maybe not that difficult conceptually, is nonethless a time consuming task in itself.

Further to that, it isn't a port exactly. There are many features that are not present in previous versions of the OS, including a total rewrite of Exec, and other critical resources. Also, as far as I understand it, Hyperion are working hard to make the system as PPC native as possible.
What I'm trying to say is that there is a lot more work than people seem to think.

Anyway, nice to see that we have some positive opinions here too :-D


Exactly. A simple port would take 3 month or 6, presuming the appropriate 68K emulator is available, the only task then is to rewrite hardware dependant system parts.

There is no doubt that their current task is more challenging, but it's not the only factor in existence. (This cannot explain why they didn't progressed with the integration of the 68K emulators since november)
I just want to emphasize, one cannot explain why it takes so long by the difficulties of the task alone.

That's where real life comes into picture - there are bills to pay, there is no income from the OS4 project, etc, etc. The rest is history.

Strictly IMHO of course
 

Offline ksk

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2003, 01:25:47 PM »
"enjoying my new PC with 2000 Pro"

 :-o



 :-P  ;-)  :-P
 

Offline xaccrocheur

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2003, 06:35:36 AM »
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ksk wrote:
"enjoying my new PC with 2000 Pro"

 :-o



 :-P  ;-)  :-P



Yeah, this is arcane to me too.

Well, I can't see any update anywhere, just WHEN is OS4 due out ??

pX
 

Offline Zorro

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2003, 04:59:16 PM »
And the Hyperion boys don't say nothing...

Please give us a tease !!!   :-P
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Offline Madgun68

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2003, 06:27:38 PM »
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I understand the frustration but come on guys, I'm sure theyr'e doing their best. Show a little levity. We waited a decade for a new platform. Whats a few more months?
To some, me thinks it must be an eternity. Hyperion should hire someone to do hand-holding for the community.
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