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Offline Rudei

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2003, 09:59:27 AM »
@Paul_Gadd

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Amigaworld.net - the new Amiga inc one sided PR website


OK well your entitled to your opinion of course!
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Offline Paul_Gadd

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2003, 10:15:07 AM »
@vortexau

I posted it as a image only, not something what points somewhere where you can ask Fleecy nice easy questions, if you ask Moss some challenging
questions you get attacked by the die hards (see HERE)

I will post it here and see if anyone finds the below question sarcastic and unproductive

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Z5 Wrote:

"Do you find it normal that people have to pay to get information out of your company?"

BrianHoskins replied:

I don't see anyone "paying" to get these 10 questions a week answered, and it's very nice of Bill to volunteer his precious time to do it - so I would suggest we repay him with less sarcastic and unproductive questions.
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Offline SlimJim

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2003, 10:24:00 AM »
@Paul_Gadd
 
So you have a thread with 5-6 people wanting "tougher"
questions (me among them),  and some also asking them,  
and one person wanting those questions to be less
sarcastically phrased. And on this you pass some sort of
judgment on an entire website?
 
Oh, man if amiga.org or ANN were held to these
standards... ;-)
 
You are of course free to any opinion you might have, but
admit this was a very poor example. These comments
could have appeared anywhere in Amiga-land.
.
SlimJim
 
 

Offline Paul_Gadd

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2003, 10:43:53 AM »
The z5 guy has asked the most honest questions on that site but will they get answered? no chance if Bouma is sending Moss the questions.

Yes it was a poor example but it shows you that there is people ready to attack someone who asks questions which are not sugar coated with the nice as pie approach.
 

Offline Rudei

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2003, 11:06:14 AM »
@Paul_Gadd

I guess with you the cup is always half empty, right?  :-)

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Offline Wilse

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2003, 11:13:37 AM »
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OS4 still hasn't came yet?


I told it to lay off the viagra but it wouldn't listen.... ;-)
(sorry)

Offline Warface

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2003, 11:16:22 AM »
As much as I saw of it as a visitor, AW seems to be a pretty polite site, except for a few outbursts. Maybe it has something to do with the similar attitude the users have, and lack of possibble confrontation, yet it's nice. I liked it.
 

Offline Wilse

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2003, 11:19:38 AM »
@Paul,

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The z5 guy has asked the most honest questions on that site but will they get answered?


They *were* sarcastic; "do you find it normal....", when referring to something within the guy's own company is totally sarcastic. I can't believe you can't see this. Or maybe I just don't know what sarcasm is.

I agree the question should be asked but only if reworded. I stated this in the thread, as, I believe, did SlimJim. Neatly ignored.

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Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2003, 12:37:08 PM »
Yepper...

Same old thing, still going on.  

 :-?
 

Offline Karlos

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2003, 08:43:07 PM »
Speaking of OS4, is anybody else sick of hearing the Hyperion team getting slated for the delays etc, or is it just me?

It's not as if the world's largest operating systems producer ever hit a release date on time and that's with a devloper team and budget that totally dwarfs Hyperion by comparison.

I understand the frustration but come on guys, I'm sure theyr'e doing their best. Show a little levity. We waited a decade for a new platform. Whats a few more months?
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Offline Atheist

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2003, 11:29:46 PM »
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Karlos wrote:
It's not as if the world's largest operating systems producer ever hit a release date on time and that's with a devloper team and budget that totally dwarfs Hyperion by comparison.


How many countries' GDP do they dwarf????

It's not like making an OS for a simple device, like C=64, like you say. (Not to demean C=64, but todays tech is VERY complex.)

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blubbe wrote:
Oh man, am I just tired or is it normal to
fall of the chair crying and laughing at the same
time..
Not judging anything though, just observing
my body expressing itself.


That's how I felt about most of the comments, and is why I posted in a sort of "oblivious to the rest of the thread", manner.

AmigaOne! Creating magic with a shoestring (budget).
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

Offline Seehund

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2003, 10:32:36 AM »
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takemehomegrandma wrote:

My guess is that he mean AmigaWorld.

Have a look at these threads:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1577
and:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1603
(especially from page 3)


Being a "moderator" is hard and unrewarding work, but someone's gotta do it... ;)

I think it's extra hilarious to see Bouma take the word "untrustworthy" in his mouth in THAT particular thread. :)

It's the hypocrisy that disgusts me. I wouldn't have any issues with AW.net (or OSNews.com, or "AmigaRing") if it somewhere clearly said that "content and membership on this site is arbitrarily regulated depending on compliance with Mike Bouma's personal opinions and Amiga, Inc. corporate policies". But those Terms Of Service are nowhere to be found. It's just (apparently incorrectly) claimed to be "AmigaWorld.net - Amiga community portal", with a stated aspiration of becoming "the central Amiga community portal."
[color=0000FF]Maybe it\\\'s still possible to [/color]save AmigaOS [color=0000FF][/size][/color]  :rtfm:......
 

Offline Warface

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2003, 10:58:21 AM »
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Atheist wrote:

How many countries' GDP do they dwarf????

It's not like making an OS for a simple device, like C=64, like you say. (Not to demean C=64, but todays tech is VERY complex.)


The problem is - their task is not to make a brand new Operating System. It's just port an existing operating system to a different architecture. It's not even an expectation to have all of it's parts PPC native. Everything is at their disposal - 68K emulators, AmigaOS sources, etc.

It's not a simple task though - but not that ridiculously hard. The delays are out of different reasons methinks - low budget, parallel tasks (game porting, partly due to low budget maybe) as you suggest may be a better argument.

I have to say, Hyperion in many ways similar to Haage und Partner. They have a firm hold and understanding of their interests and rights, and they have the support of the community. Haage gave us 2 operating systems. I presume Hyperion will just as well give us 2 or more, before being public enemy in the eyes of the fanatics.

Let them work. Delays have little consequences in Amiga land. We're all used to it.
 

Offline z5

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2003, 11:15:01 AM »
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Karlos wrote:
Speaking of OS4, is anybody else sick of hearing the Hyperion team getting slated for the delays etc, or is it just me?

It's not as if the world's largest operating systems producer ever hit a release date on time and that's with a devloper team and budget that totally dwarfs Hyperion by comparison.

I understand the frustration but come on guys, I'm sure theyr'e doing their best. Show a little levity. We waited a decade for a new platform. Whats a few more months?


Karlos, i agree. There is one worry though. The longer it takes, the longer Hyperion is a company without any income. And you have to have income to survive. That is my main worry.
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Offline Rudei

Re: OS4 still hasn't came yet?
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2003, 11:25:38 AM »
@Karlos

Completely agree mate - give `em a break!
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