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Offline NedKellyTopic starter

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Phase 5?
« on: August 31, 2005, 11:31:50 PM »
What happened to Phase 5?
 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 11:55:19 PM »
Busted

Some of the developers formed B-Plan (Pegasos I + II) and are working on Morphos

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2005, 12:07:05 AM »
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Busted

Some of the developers formed B-Plan (Pegasos I + II) and are working on Morphos

Markus


So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?
 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2005, 12:16:18 AM »
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So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?


Doubt it, the design is old and parts probably hard to come by.  There is supposedly a new G4 board being worked on by Adam Kowalczyk up in Canada somewhere.  He said he'd release it 1st Quarter 2005 or maybe he's waiting for the OS4 full release...dunno
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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2005, 12:47:43 AM »
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So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?


DCE Computers made some Phase 5's products after it went bust and they probably still hold the license for those P5 products. They however have even much worser reputation than even p5 had when things started to wrong for them, and haven't done ppc-turbos nor G-rex products (which btw were also p5 designs even though they didn't manage to release them) for maybe 4-5 years now.
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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2005, 12:53:16 AM »
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So there is no chance of anyone making some new/more phase 5 A1200 PPC accelerator boards?


 DCE did a deal with P5 to make some for a while, but from what people have posted here they weren't as good as the Phase5 made cards..then there's the whole messy DCE repair saga.

 Does anyone remember the details of the deal? Did they buy the designs or just make them under license?

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2005, 04:50:15 AM »
Who ever didn't replace the DCE provided fan on their CSPPC card usually ended up with a busted card shortly.

DCE used the BPPC small 30x30x6mm fan to cool down the 604e!!! :-(
 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2005, 04:59:18 AM »
Well that would be me.  I playing Heretic II on a hot Seattle day and my card went bust.  Sent it to Germany and never saw it again.  :getmad:
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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2005, 02:22:09 PM »
So the DCE boards sold by softhut.com aren't worth buying?

I'm going to get a A1200, then was looking at getting either a 040 or 060 for it. Nine years ago I had a A1200 with a falcon 040@25mhz. Would like at least that setup now, so wondering once I get my A1200, which accelerator board to get?
 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 02:32:20 PM »
I would say, don't get the DCE boards if you have the choice between a Phase5 and DCE board. For instance Blizzard 1260 produced by DCE can not be disabled by holding down the '2' key as the Phase5 boards can. A great advantage if you don't want to upgrade your A1200 to the max, and needs to be able to go back to normal A1200 stage...

Another thing; if you are deciding for a Blizzard PPC board in order to be able to get a BVision graphics card installed, be aware that DCE sold some boards stating they were Blizzard PPC 68060@50 and 603e@210 for instance. The fact is that in most cases the 603e was running 210, but only because they overclocked a 603e CPU designed for 160 MHz. If you on the other hand can find a Blizzard PPC board produced by Phase5, you can find boards with 603e CPUs designed for 160, 200 and 240 MHz instead.
 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 02:52:30 PM »
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For instance Blizzard 1260 produced by DCE can not be disabled by holding down the '2' key as the Phase5 boards can.


Thats not true. My Blizzard 1260 from DCE can be disabled holding the "2".

 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 03:24:59 PM »
Same here with my DCE Blizzard 1260. :-)
 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 03:29:11 PM »
OK, I stand corrected. I guess it doesn't matter if you buy a DCE or a Phase5 model when talking about Blizzard 1260 boards, but I would still choose Phase5 if I had the choice.
 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2005, 03:06:06 PM »
By disabling the board, does that mean the whole board or just the cpu?

 

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Re: Phase 5?
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2005, 05:17:27 PM »
@NedKelly

Everything.  CPU, RAM, and SCSI.

BTW, my DCE Blizzard 1260 can be disabled with the "2" key also.  I've never heard of any design differences between the Phase5 and DCE Blizzard 1260s.
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