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When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« on: July 01, 2005, 09:56:14 AM »
I have just installed a 6Gb Hitachi HD on my A1200 but the HDtools reference is only saying it is 16mb. What am I doing wrong?
  I have Kickstart 3.1 roms freshly installed with a new Workbench. The Hitachi is a 2.5 inch laptop drive.
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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2005, 10:05:29 AM »
Kickstart supports only drives up to 4GB.
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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 10:20:09 AM »
Is there no work around for a drive 2 gb larger?
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 10:41:02 AM »
The drive will work fine even though it is 2 GB larger. Just don't go beyound the first 4 GB of the drive.

Yu could also install SmartFileSystem or Professional FileSystem to take advantage of the full 6 GB. Or OS3.5 or 3.9 for that matter.
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 11:02:33 AM »
Sorry I have been away from the Amiga for so long but where where would I get hold of these filesystem drivers you suggest? Thanks
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 11:14:13 AM »
SmartFileSystem are available at www.aminet.net and the upgrade version I can not remember the homepage for. PFS, OS3.5 and OS3.9 can be bought in online Amiga shops, at least OS3.5 and OS3.9.
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2005, 11:22:07 AM »
download SFS 1.239 for 68K from:

http://home.wtal.de/js/
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2005, 03:48:12 PM »
I will try that but I am using my PC to download stuff but haven't figured out how to transfer it yet. I have ordered a transfer program but I am still waiting for it to arrive.
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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2005, 03:50:34 PM »
I will try that but I am using my PC to download stuff but haven't figured out how to transfer it yet. I have ordered a transfer program but I am still waiting for it to arrive.
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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2005, 04:11:21 PM »

 Hi there,it is a good thing i read your post,i was thinking about buying a 40Gb HD for my A1200,and now i know how to do it.Thanks! :-D
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2005, 04:24:25 PM »
@webman

Transfer is easy. You can use 720 kb PC formatted disks in Amiga. Just boot up your Workbench and transfer PC0: from the DOSDrivers drawer on your Storage disk to the same drawer on your Workbench disk. Pop in the PC formatted disk and you have access to the files on it (in 8.3 format only though :-()
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2005, 07:24:30 PM »
I thought that the kickstart supported larger drives, but that FFS didn't support larger partitions than 4 Gb. :-?
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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2005, 08:31:38 PM »
The HDToolBox isn't reading the drive geometry correctly.  You  probably need to get the specs (heads, cylinders, etc.) from the manufacturer and enter them yourself.  

I have a 20GB IBM/Hitachi in my A1200 that was detected correctly.  But, in my A4000D the WD 120GB came up as 35GB.  I had to manually enter all of the geometry (as well as do some LBA math).

As stated before, without additional software, you should keep the partitions below the 4GB boundry.  (Otherwise, anything written above 4GB will overwrite the start of the disk.)

Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2005, 09:01:00 PM »
I tried entering the drive geometry but ended up with a negative address range in kb. I will try the PC DOS suggestion.
 

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Re: When is 6GB only 16mb. when its on a 1200
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2005, 09:02:07 PM »
With Kickstart/OS 3.1 the ffs is only abel to write to 2GB Partitions and the OS itself is only able to address the first 4GB of a Harddisk. Even if you can install mount etc a bigger Partition or Harddisk as soon as you filled up the 4GB it will start at the first blocks of the Harddisk continuing writing and at that point you have OVERWRITTEN your RDB !!!

To go over the 2 and 4 GB barrier you have to install OS3.5 or OS3.9. But even with OS3.5/OS3.9 there is one restriction. The FIRST Partition may NOT be in any case bigger than 2GB (Because at startup there is only Kickstart 3.1 available, the rest will be loaded/patched when booting)

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