Arrgh, IBrowse got me again!

[Lo]

Just when I thought IB 2.3 demo was rock solid, I wake up to a cold boot and validation error of "block 1234xyz used twice" requestor.  Maybe its not IBrowse, but I leave it's Icon out on my workbench, and I "can't put away this Icon". along with having to click cancel on "error validating disk work" 3 or 4 times just to change a web page.  I knew I shoulda put it on its own partition, dang!  So, I'm off to delete the cache, etc.  " AH'LL B BACH" (I hope)

[Lo]

Looks like I'm doomed! I cannot delete Ibrowse's cache..  Should I try a force delete via CLI?     Try Disk Salv? (never used it on a HD). Any chance of saving the partition?  Or when in doubt, reformat?  (At least I saved Miami)

[jj]

use disksalv or quaterback tools to fix the drive, the drive will be validated and u will be able to delete the files, i used to get the same problem all the time , when voyagerr used to crash all the time it used to mess up the disk.

[SlimJim]

That's why I always keep the Cache on a separate, smaller
partition... Much faster to validate, and you don't have to
worry about your blood pressure. ;-)
.
SlimJim

[sTix]

get pfs 3 and you won`t have to worry
about things like that....

and ofcourse as a nice side effect you
will gain some speed  

[redrumloa]

DiskSalv is a must for Amiga browser users.

[FuZion]

Here here Slim,

Mine is like this (For the moment, I'm going through a restructure soon, but you know):

Workbench:
Apps:
Files:
Games:
Cache: Shed: EmergencyBench:
Not a very interesting post I admit, but if anyone gets fed up with validating massive partitions it may give you a little something to try out.

Back to the original post, it may not have been IBrowse that caused your troubles, but its that part of your HD that has been affected... Maybe.. Who knows...? Apart from Mulder & Scully.

[Lo]

Thanks for your replies!

Disk Salv couldn't fix the partition, tried all the options I think (salvage, repair, validate etc.)  So.. IBrowse has its OWN partition now.
Umm, so would it be better/faster to just put the cache directory there, and have the rest of IBrowse in the same partition as MUI/Miami? I don't mind risking losing URL's if it happens again..  thanx

[blobrana]

AS was said, i have the path of the cache directory leading to another partition. I also have a backup STORE of the cache directory with pages that i can surf offline.
(same partition).

I am in the habit of normally flushing the contents after a surf .

[HotRod]

What version of AOS (FFS) do you got? I've never had any validation-problems since OS 3.9 with BB 2. If your partition isn't bigger than 4Gb you could use Disksalve and if you have V4.x of this program you could use Repair. This should fix your problem.

[Lo]

Your right hotrod, I did not have BB2 installed!

[tonyw]

I had the same problem last week when YAM crashed several times. But it turned out that YAM was the victim, not the culprit, since there were bad blocks on the drive around the bitmap area. I managed to get all my files off the drive and scrap it for a new one.

I suggest you run Quarterback tools (or something else) on the drive to check for bad blocks (errant software can't cause them). If there are bad blocks, the disc is dying.

tony

[Damion]

I use pfs 3 and a separate partition, and I have
never had any problems.

[Kurt]

Okay folks I said this about a hundred times but I am going to say it again.

WARNING!! A total blown head gasket rant is about to  commence all those who don't want to hear a raving RANT please leave the room now. You have been warned.

That was a totally an unnecessary error. It did not have to happen.
 PFS/AFS has been around for over a decade. SFS is available for free on the internet USE one of THEM!!!!!

I can pull power while copying a partition with absolutely no fear. I never ever have a invalidated partition.

What you say are those programs? Simple a FFS replacement that are fast compatible and more importantly you never ever get an invalidated  disk. Short of a hardware failure you data is safe and secure.

Besides being many times faster than FFS. They offer protection from invalidated disk because they use what is called an atomic filesystem there is always a valid disk structure it goes from valid structure to valid structure there is never a half way point like FFS.

Unless you like invalidated disks and the tedium to fix them there is no reason not to have one of these programs installed on your hard drive besides sheer stupidity!!!!

If you don't want PFS  on all of your partitons you don't have to install it on all partitions only on the partitions you want to protect.
You can even  mix them all on a single hard drive if you like.

Good points about these systems.
No invalidated hard drives and lost data
many times faster than FFS
PFS3 has no limits on the size of the Hard drive
SFS has a three Tetrabytes size limit
Both have a single partition limit in the 104 Gigabyte range.
Full Amigados Compatibility.


Downside only problems I have ever encountered using these programs is with the GVP crap.
GVP does not read the RDB properly and will not see these partitions. ARGG! but install these on the RDB say on a IDE drive not hooked to your GVP bingo now the GVP can read and write these partitions fine .
Why GVP still can't make stuff that follow a simple standard laid out by Commodore 16 years ago is mind boggling. You should also note that since it is not reading the RDB any updates to FFS installed on the RDB are also not being read properly.

Why anybody is still using FFS is beyond me. Most probaly because they haven't heard of the above programs but after learning about them and still using FFS is sheer lunacy.

BTW SFS support is built into AOS4.0

RANT over feeling better now

Kurt

links for SFS and PFS
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hjohn/SFS
http://on.to/greed

[lionstorm]

If you still continue using FFS after what has been posted, install turboval available through aminet : it will help you very much is validating related problems.
Lio