Using a PC mouse without a h/w adaptor?

[AmigaMance]

Hi, ppl.
 I have a PC mouse which has exactly the same plug with an Amiga mouse (actually, the original plug is a small round one that adapts to an "Amiga-like" plug) and i want to ask you if there is a way to use it, without a hardware adaptor. I hope there is a software driver for this.
 Right now, when i plug it in without touching, it makes a constant hick-up move and the LMB reacts like it's been pressed on and off rapidly.

[whabang]

PC serial mice can be used with the Amiga, but you need an adapter to make it fit the Amiga's serial port! :-P
Never connect it to the Amiga's joystick-port. They are totally different!

[AmigaMance]

 I see. But where would i connect my modem if the serial port is occupied by the mouse?

[XDelusion]

The one draw back of using a PC Serial Mouse in the Serial port is that "most" games will not work with the mouse.

I'm personally saving up for one of those $45 PC mouse adaptors so I can plug into the propper mouse port and have full support, the down side is that those adaptors only cost about $5.00 for them to make. :/

[Effy]

I bought this Topolino serial mouse adapter for 24 Euro two weeks ago so now I can connect a pc serial mouse to my mouse port on Amiga !!!

[Doobrey]

XDelusion wrote:
I'm personally saving up for one of those $45 PC mouse adaptors so I can plug into the propper mouse port and have full support, the down side is that those adaptors only cost about $5.00 for them to make. :/

If you're handy with a soldering iron, you can make your own..ps2m.lha

Although you'll also need to build a PIC programmer if you haven't got one, but even so you should be able to buy the parts for both for 1/2 -1/3 the price.

[AmigaMance]

 Yes, a mouse-port adaptor would be ideal. I think i will buy one asap.

[Noster]

Hi,

I've used an "old" serial Microsoft mouse, opened it, taken a cable from an old Amiga mouse and soldered the end of the cable at the right places in the Microsoft mouse -- bypassing the hardware that generates the serial protocol -- cut some traces and now I have a perfect Amiga (-only) mouse.
It's quite cool to connect a Microsoft mouse directly -- without any adapter -- to an Amiga :-D

It's easy to be done, just have a look into an opened Amiga mouse and an opened Microsoft mouse (two button) and if you have some electronic experience you could easily make the mod.

Noster

[orange]

can it be done with any M$ serial mouse?

There are also some old BUS mouses that could be used directly, you just need to swap some wires. But it'd be very hard to find them now, I guess.

Best solution is that aminet hack. I've made it on the same PCB with ATkeyboard hack and it works great. PIC16f84 are VERY common, you'll easily find someone with programmer; and if you don't its easy to built one too.

[Noster]

Hi

> can it be done with any M$ serial mouse?

I think you can do it with any two or three button serial mouse. Special buttons like a wheel will not work of cause.
I have also reworked a Logitech PS/2 mouse.

If you desolder the needless parts and rearrange them you could build an interface to connect an Amiga mouse to a PC's mouse port, very cool for running UAE with an original Amiga mouse :-D

> But it'd be very hard to find them now, I guess.

They are not hard to find. At nearly every garage sale you could get them for 1,- EUR.

Noster

[Linchpin]

I remember hearing somewhere that connecting a mouse (serial PC mouse) to the amiga ran a really high risk of frying one of the CIA's... if your not using an adaptor that is.

[Thomas]

On Aminet there are instructions on how to rip all the electronics out off a serial PC mouse, so you can connect it directly to the Amiga mouse port without adapter.

Using a cordless optical PS/2 mouse with scroll wheel and many buttons on a PS/2->Amiga adapter is much more fun, though.

Bye,
Thomas