Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: New AmigaONE test  (Read 4290 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ikirTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1659
    • Show only replies by ikir
    • http://www.ikirsector.it
New AmigaONE test
« on: March 15, 2003, 01:31:35 PM »
On IkS you can find some new AmigaONE test done by Massimiliano Tretene (Soft3)

-------------------------
Dalla mailing-list relativa all'os4:

"Sto testando in questi giorni un nuovo dnet client con ottimizzazioni per l'altivec.

Da test preliminari, il core rc5-72 ottimizzato altivec, raggiunge gli 8 Megakeys / sec.

Questo dato è da confrontare con i 4.65 Megakeys / sec raggiunti da un Athlon ad 1.8 Ghz.

Sono d'accordo che questo genere di test sia molto generico, però può dare una indicazione approssimativa su che tipo di accelerazione si può attendere da una applicazione che tragga beneficio dall'utilizzo dell'altivec.

Massimiliano Tretene"
--------------------------

Its about altivec. It seem that AmigaONE+Altivec give a double speed than a Athlon1.8
 

Offline ikirTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1659
    • Show only replies by ikir
    • http://www.ikirsector.it
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2003, 01:44:00 PM »
I'm thinking about a game-killer applications wich runs with Altivec Support......
 

Offline Elektro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 1424
    • Show only replies by Elektro
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2003, 02:09:08 PM »
"From the mailing-list relative to the os4:  "I am testing in these days a new one dnet client with optimizations for the altivec.  From preliminary tests, optimized Core rc5-72 altivec, catches up the 8 Megakeys/sec.  This data?  to confront with the 4,65 Megakeys/sec caught up from a Athlon to 1.8 Ghz.  They are of agreement that this kind of test is much generic one, for?  pu?  to give one approximate indication on that type of acceleration pu?  to attend from an application that it draws benefit from I use of the altivec.  Massimiliano Marked Tretene "from MDI Gives impressive said to you.  We wait for to you on our furum in order to discuss about these tests."

I love computer translations!  :-D
#amiga.org @ irc.synirc.net
 

Offline ikirTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1659
    • Show only replies by ikir
    • http://www.ikirsector.it
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2003, 02:59:51 PM »
Eh eh! Great Elektro :-D
 

Offline ksk

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 381
    • Show only replies by ksk
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2003, 04:09:34 PM »
We want more! We want more!    :-P
 

Offline ikirTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1659
    • Show only replies by ikir
    • http://www.ikirsector.it
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2003, 04:30:39 PM »
Quote

ksk wrote:
We want more! We want more!    :-P


LOL 8-)
 

Offline Seehund

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 1230
    • Show only replies by Seehund
    • http://AmigaPOP.8bit.co.uk/
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2003, 02:05:00 AM »
Quote

ksk wrote:
We want more! We want more!    :-P


Here you go!

(Maybe you were being sarcastic, it's hard to tell when XOOPS mistranslates a ":-P" smiley into a "happily grinning mongoloid" GIF... ;) )

A dnetc run is as good as entirely CPU-bound. It doesn't matter much if the CPU sits in a Teron or a Mac, or if it's running Linux or whatever.
 For a system benchmark, it's almost entirely worthless, except for perhaps finding out if there are serious performance problems.
[color=0000FF]Maybe it\\\'s still possible to [/color]save AmigaOS [color=0000FF][/size][/color]  :rtfm:......
 

  • Guest
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2003, 02:42:57 AM »
hasnt this been talked to death? I thought people understood by now.

that altivec is just a SIMD... and yes it's a highly optomiosed SIMD... but it's much better for improveing benchmarks then actually doing anything practical.

e.g running Apps.

the Athlon survives on it's real world capabilities, as does the P4... not on some benchmarks..

 

Offline Damion

Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2003, 03:08:18 AM »
I agree. The G4 looks spectacular on paper, and
yes it's pretty fast, but there's something
wrong when dual G4's are getting beaten by
single x86 processors in the real - world
(applications) benchmarks. It wouldn't be
such a big deal if it weren't for the
cost/performance ratio.

The G4 is still a great processor though. My
sister's G4/700mhz feels pretty fast, especially
under OS 9. OS X seems pretty sluggish still
no matter how fast of a mac it's run on.
Hopefully that will change soon.
 

Offline FluffyMcDeath

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2002
  • Posts: 3440
    • Show only replies by FluffyMcDeath
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2003, 04:37:13 AM »
Quote

mips_proc wrote:
...
that altivec is just a SIMD... and yes it's a highly optomiosed SIMD... but it's much better for improveing benchmarks then actually doing anything practical.

e.g running Apps.


Word processing probably has no use for SIMD, but then again, it doesn't have much use for MHz either. On the other hand, DSP and image processing type applications can get a v. nice boost from it.

Problem is, you have to compile the apps to use it. Otherwise it's like having a floating point unit, but running apps compiled for an integer only prior version of the cpu.

A lot of stuff you may run on a PIV these days is compiled for PII, and you just don't get the kind of oomph you'd get if the code was compiled for the machine it ran on.

Hopefully, apps that could benefit from SIMD will ship with an Altivec optimized version as well as the G3 version, in the same way we get our 68000, 68020, and 68040 executables now.
 

Offline ksk

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 381
    • Show only replies by ksk
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2003, 09:03:34 AM »
What I really meant was that I/we want to see more benchmarks in general.

(But I'm also happy to see that the Altivec is useable in A1.)
 

Offline poweramiga2002

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jun 2002
  • Posts: 177
    • Show only replies by poweramiga2002
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2003, 10:10:23 AM »
i agree i want to see more A1 comparisons too as im waiting nfor my A1 to come it gives us somthing to look forward too as we dont know when our boards will come so please all you lucky ppl out there send up your speed tests for us to drewl over with altivec active
 

Offline Hammer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1996
  • Country: 00
    • Show only replies by Hammer
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2003, 11:24:28 AM »
Quote

ikir wrote:
On IkS you can find some new AmigaONE test done by Massimiliano Tretene (Soft3)

-------------------------
Dalla mailing-list relativa all'os4:

"Sto testando in questi giorni un nuovo dnet client con ottimizzazioni per l'altivec.

Da test preliminari, il core rc5-72 ottimizzato altivec, raggiunge gli 8 Megakeys / sec.

Questo dato è da confrontare con i 4.65 Megakeys / sec raggiunti da un Athlon ad 1.8 Ghz.

Sono d'accordo che questo genere di test sia molto generico, però può dare una indicazione approssimativa su che tipo di accelerazione si può attendere da una applicazione che tragga beneficio dall'utilizzo dell'altivec.

Massimiliano Tretene"
--------------------------

Its about altivec. It seem that AmigaONE+Altivec give a double speed than a Athlon1.8

To illustrate the opposite view refer any OpenSSL benchmarks…

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020113045343563

Any good Linux distributions should have included OpenSSL utilities.

About OpenSSL utility, refer to
http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/openssl_x509.1.asp
Amiga 1200 PiStorm32-Emu68-RPI 4B 4GB.
Ryzen 9 7900X, DDR5-6000 64 GB, RTX 4080 16 GB PC.
 

Offline xaccrocheur

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2002
  • Posts: 430
    • Show only replies by xaccrocheur
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2003, 12:41:48 PM »
WOW. Impressive. What is a megakey, BTW ? :-D
 

Offline strobe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2002
  • Posts: 885
    • Show only replies by strobe
    • http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:7XQQZXN3cS4C:www.amiga.com/corporate/amigadepartypack.shtml
Re: New AmigaONE test
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2003, 10:15:20 PM »
OS X 10.2.x is snappy provided you have a video card that supports QE (AGP GeForce2MX or better, AGP Radeon or better)