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To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« on: May 28, 2005, 12:30:45 PM »
http://www.970eval.com/

(includes picture, FAQ, forum, specs...)

http://www.momenco.com/products/tsa200.html

(Same specs w/block diagram)

Since IBM's CPC925 uses HyperTransport, they can use nForce south bridges.

This is a full blown computer folks. PCIe replaces both AGP and PCI/PCI-X. As you can see, this board supports PCI as well. PCIe is compatible (or rather identical) at the driver level. In fact NVidia's PCIe video cards are just their AGP 8X cards with a PCIe bridge, no change to the software was necessary.

They have various parters like Terra-Soft Solutions listed too. These are small companies. They seem to want to recruit more support from similar companies  :-D  :-D
 

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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2005, 12:43:19 PM »
mhh yes . . . estimated price, for a production batch of 1000 pcs or so?!?

 

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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2005, 01:40:42 PM »
Start harvesting those kidneys, folks :lol:
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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2005, 03:35:18 PM »
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mhh yes . . . estimated price, for a production batch of 1000 pcs or so?!?



Could be quite reasonable actually. The $4500 price is for a test board only (from a smaller batch), which is quite low!

If the same board is also ordered by companies like TerraSoft, who knows? Could be on par with Apple's prices, and would include full schematics.
 

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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2005, 03:45:04 PM »
mhh i could ask to DCE but . . . . THEY DON'T ANSWER :-D

and don't know why! :roll:

 

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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2005, 03:59:27 PM »
DCE would probably want to make their own CPC925-based board.

More power to them, I guess  :inquisitive:
 

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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2005, 04:14:52 PM »
anyway, it would be a great solution but, as you already know, to the Amigaland "chiefs", doesn't like the easy tasks.

 

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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2005, 06:28:27 PM »
They're evaluation boards and have lots of thngs we'd likely never need or use, such as all thise PCI-X slots (do you know where to get affordable cards to use those slots?) or all those ethernet ports. This thing might make a good server, but for the consumer likes of us it's an awful lot of unusable stuff. I'd rather see something with emerging consumer standards like PCI-Express than useless PCI-X slots... It's also a power monster which is also my complaint about the recent Cell motherboard discussions. Such huge heatsinks wuld make it difficult or impossible to do something smaller like the MicroA1 until they can get power consumption of the CPU and chipset lowered. (ie. won't work with Project Reality case or other small Mini-ITX cases)

There had been an attempt to work with this company to redesign it into something more to our needs, the Amiga 5 project or something like that. That guy was taking donations to buy one of the $6000 eval kits (required before you can buy further boards at the lower $4500 price). It didn't work out and as I understand he returned all the donations.

I don't think you'll get anything on par with Apple's prices. They manufacture in the 100,000s... Lots of 500 or 1000 simply cannot get the price breaks on components that Apple does, that's much of why Eyetech's boards are priced as they are.
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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2005, 06:30:48 AM »
Hi
The main problem:
How to get large quantity of PowerPC 970 and CPC 925 chipsets?
There is a yield problem at IBM fabs and the CPU / IC is NOT available for general public. All their production are bought by Apple (cornering strategy).

Second: bugs.
IBM and Motorola PowerPC are famous for buggy CPU and chipsets: PowerPC 620, Winbond/POP, Articia etc.
Will PowerPC 970 and CPC 925 contain similar bugs?
 

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Re: To hell with the Teron and Pegasos, check this out
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2005, 11:14:53 AM »
You see it's all very well getting excited about other hardware from differing manufacturers but frankly, I just want to browse the net, do office work and yes...I would like to kill afew aliens here and there.

But the web site contains just numbers - another motherboard taking the PPC architecture to the next level.  While this is good in all respects, we don't have an OS that runs on a five year old concept of a motherboard (A1) no matter how many times the specs are updated.

It would be fantastic if this motherboard came with a linux distro with all the trimmings, multimedia, development, Internet apps and all the libraries also but this is not likely to happen and as such this board will probably stay beyond the realms of the consumer.