MAI Logic Website Disappeared

The end result here -- without all the stupid bickering -- is that if MAI are truly gone (and not bought out like some rumors are ripe to suggest), Eyetech have no boards to sell.  

Using that premise, quite simply -- unless Eyetech can instantly locate another solution, then get Hyperion to rewrite the base logic of OS4 (how many years will that take?) -- the fate of the "future Amiga" is sealed.

MAI - disappeared. (or should I say MIA?)
Eyetech - completely silent
Hyperion - still slightly active but without a board to write for.
Amiga Inc - for all appearances, dead.

It's time to put AmigaOS4 on the Mac guys.  Well, about 4 years past time now, but if they get started now, maybe we could see OS4 before 2010.

Wayne

[Velcro_SP]

Asian1 says:

I suspect that M is actually Motorola, but Motorola had spin off the loss making Freescale Semiconductor (in financial problems).

Asian1, FreeScale is not having any financial problems if that's how you mean this. FreeScale stock is doing great, go to Yahoo! click on Finance in upper left and type in FSL to see some charts.

[Velcro_SP]

Wayne says:

MAI - disappeared. (or should I say MIA?)
Eyetech - completely silent
Hyperion - still slightly active but without a board to write for.
Amiga Inc - for all appearances, dead.

Genesi - Alive.
MorphOS - Alive, most recent version released 3 weeks ago.

[Velcro_SP]

Ah, and AROS is alive too, sorry for missing you, AROS!

AROS - Alive.

[drHirudo]

At this point, if I were an A1 owner I would be getting nervous

Can you please explain why should I be getting nervous?

If MAI site or the whole company is gone this doesn't mean that my AmigaOne will stop working.
And after the thousands of post about the bugs in the Articia, this can be taken as good news. Now Eyetech will have to find other (better) chipset provider
or design one by themselves.

[Holley]

Thanks Velcro - yes AROS is very alive (and we've now got hosted PPC support!).

I was very pleasanty surprised to see the goings on over at MorphZone - the idea of a Peg 2.5 with new updated Morphos makes things look promising.

You forgot about the AHT STBs though :-D They're the driving force behind the PPC AROS work ...

[countzero]

Can you please explain why should I be getting nervous?

because if eyetech changes the chipset, also hyperion should make changes in the OS4 for the new chipset, which will make the final OS4 release even later. AND who knows, they may stop supporting the old  chipset and concentrate on the new chipset. If you're happy with OS 4 beta, nothing to worry about though.

[Holley]

Sorry, missed that reply - yes, basically if you already own an existing A1, and support for the Articia doesn't continue, there is the potential to be stuck with an unsupported machine.  Plus there will be delays due to one thing or another ...

[seer]

AND who knows, they may stop supporting the old chipset and concentrate on the new chipset.

Doubtful.. Why ? Well, AFAIK, MOS is still supporting Peg 1. MOS and AmigaOS4 are both supporting the Classic, so why would Hyperion stop supporting an Articia based A1 if the next gen would be using another chipset ?

[dammy]

by drHirudo on 2005/5/22 10:04:18

Can you please explain why should I be getting nervous?

If MAI site or the whole company is gone this doesn't mean that my AmigaOne will stop working.

Doesn't mean it won't go up in a puff (which I don't, trust me) of smoke tomorrow either.  Problem will be getting a replacement if there is no more MAI.  That type of nightmare is why I jumped to x86, I'm never going to be held hostage to the hardware vender ever again.

And after the thousands of post about the bugs in the Articia, this can be taken as good news. Now Eyetech will have to find other (better) chipset provider
or design one by themselves.

Unless they make kissyface with Genesi, they are going to be SOL.  I have alot of doubt they have any capital to spend on chip/mobo design and developement.  That stuff takes huge amount of cash, for what, another thousand or so mobo sales? Get real.  If MAI is done, so is Eyetech.  Question is without Eyetech and future sales, what is Hyperion going to do with OS4?

Dammy

[Holley]

I'm never going to be held hostage to the hardware vender ever again.

Thats a good line from a hardware vendor :-D

There's a discussion on AW.net about Acill's attempt to fund an official port of OS4 to Peg - he didn't even get a reply to his queries though.

BTW MOS no longer supports Peg 1 or classic hardware, in fact the only classic support was when it was in early development.  If AI find themselves with no desktop hardware it would make sense to either sell it whole (ie. to Hyperion or something, to then be ported) or to fund porting it to the easiest hardware to switch to - ie. pegasos.

[Piru]

@Holley

BTW MOS no longer supports Peg 1 or classic hardware, in fact the only classic support was when it was in early development.

That is not true.

Pegasos1 is supported in MorphOS.
Classic hardware MorphOS is not released yet.

However, it is true that the focus certainly is on Pegasos hardware, not classics.

[Louis Dias]

Acill wrote:
fast cheap solution to the A1

 :lol:

Hey, Acill, how do you feel about a console port to a real cheap PPC solution?  Nintendo Gamecube.  Seriously.

[Holley]

Piru - Sorry, I was sure I had read on Morphzone that Peg Is were stuck with Mos 1.3 or something ... ho hum ...

Genesi - Alive.
MorphOS - Alive, most recent version released 3 weeks ago.

Neither has anything to do with the Amiga platform other than providing an unlicensed clone.  That may or may not be a bad thing, especially if the official route is now dead (as it seems).  

I won't even touch on the number of people who've been screwed over by BOTH companies involved.  While I heartily respect and support the teams writing both OS', I can't help but wish both companies (Amiga Inc / Genesi) would simply disappear off the face of the planet, so I'm really conflicted as to whether having an official "death event" is a bad thing.  We'd still have our classics, and even have a few badly buggy small-batch boards...

I sincerely -- and I can't express how badly I want this, but I -- want both efforts to port their Operating system to better, cheaper, more available hardware such as the Macintosh.  

Wayne

[Acill]

lou_dias wrote:

Acill wrote:
fast cheap solution to the A1

 :lol:

Hey, Acill, how do you feel about a console port to a real cheap PPC solution?  Nintendo Gamecube.  Seriously.

I think its a stupid idea, I am interested in a computer not a game machine. What good would it do on that? I didnt intend to burst your buble or anything, but thats how I feel.