MAI Logic Website Disappeared

drHirudo wrote:
MAI was bought by Eyetech and now they will be able to sell AmigaOnes much more cheaper, that's why Alan was so busy at the recent months in China. AmigaOS 4 is coming, cheaper hardware is coming, the Amiga future is more bright than ever.

Yes, because the communist Chinese Government have a track record of letting small private foreign businesses purchase Chinese firms eh?

[coldfish]

Its a case of the Amiga touch!!!

Similar to Midas, except everything turns to SHxT!

:-)

[strobe]

MAI was poop long before the Amiga cabal touched it.

I'm surprised so many A1 boards were sold given the known problems and the expense.

I've always said it made far greater sense to port either AOS4 or MOS to Apple's Uni-N chipset. Would you rather pay thousands for buggy HW or hundreds for the ability to run your apps on a PowerBook? It's not like the licensed hardware was any good even if it did run as advertised. Years old PowerMac hardware could be had on eBay for a fraction of the price.

But I suppose that just wouldn't be proper. So we have this mess instead.

Now that game consoles have hard drives I wonder how much more obvious these decisions are. Oh but please, keep yammering on about MAI's Artica-based ITX boards. zzz

[strobe]

Just to master the obvious:

It's INSANE to design a custom board for 2000 customers. You got what could be afforded for such a market: buggy reference boards.

Why waste all that effort making boards which are no better (in fact much worse) than what's already available?

The whole license situation is all the more laughable. Sure, all we need to do is find a company willing to prostrate themselves before the great Amiga/Hyperion and beg for a license to give them $170 per copy. Hyperion is the party who has to prove themselves. AOS4 is an UNPROVEN technology, unworthy of such a license scheme. The buggy state of affairs only makes this situation more untenable.

OK, I think this dead horse has had enough... :-D

[minator]

Just to master the obvious:

It's INSANE to design a custom board for 2000 customers.

Might not be actually, depends on the development costs.
Even at $100 000 that's only $50 per board.

A new North bridge is another matter, at say $10 000 000 that doesn't bear thinking about.

Their best bet is the mini Mac but getting docs could prove rather difficult.

Getting docs for the Peg should be relatively trivial however, getting them to consider the peg however is a different matter altogether...

[strobe]

Maybe if/when Eyetech drops out that will force Hyperion to adopt a different business model.

What are people planning to use their PCI slots for which isn't taken care of by the built-in abilities of the new consoles?

[gregthecanuck]

asian1 wrote:
MAI DOT COM went M.I.A. on May.

Apparently their webhosting contract had expired.
All their e-mail, FAX, and phone are disconnected.

I tried both their fax and phone from their whois record.

Fax is disconnected.

Phone is now a new number: 1-510-861-3358.  I tried this number and did get an answering machine with a very short "MAI logic" identification before the 'beep'.

There is still a pulse...  however faint...   :-D

[Acill]

Well mai has been in trouble for quite some time, maybe they finaly went under?

[Acill]

Wayne wrote:
Apple doesn't have to pay for a license, since Hyperion would be (in this fantasy anyway) porting the OS to it.  Much like Yellow Dog Linux does.

Wayne

Uh I tried to PAY Hyperion for a port in the sum of $15,000 and I was told no I need to get a license to bring it to the Pegasos from Amiga Inc, so Apple would have to do thae same in that sence and they would never do that.

Uh I tried to PAY Hyperion for a port in the sum of $15,000 and I was told no I need to get a license to bring it to the Pegasos from Amiga Inc, so Apple would have to do thae same in that sence and they would never do that.

That's insane, but then again, there are reasons that the new Amiga has succeeded so fabulously.  Sorry... That was a hairball of sarcasm.

I think though that there is some sort of miscommunication.  NOTHING, not even Amiga Inc is stopping Hyperion from porting OS4 to the Macintosh hardware platform.  Well, sorry, I forgot the stranglehold by the holy trimuvirate, but they COULD do it (just like Yellow Dog Linux did) if they wanted to actually make it successful.

Wayne

[strobe]

Acill wrote:

Uh I tried to PAY Hyperion for a port in the sum of $15,000 and I was told no I need to get a license to bring it to the Pegasos from Amiga Inc, so Apple would have to do thae same in that sence and they would never do that.

WTF? Sounds like the royal run-around  :pissed:

If this is true, the sooner the Amiga cabal is forced to rethink their tactics the better!

[Acill]

Yup, its sad the way it all worked out. The fact that Amiga demands a license from hardware vendors to have their OS run on it is insane. Who in their right mind would pay to bring a cometing OS that is not complete and untested to the hardware they make? Since they fail to reply even to interested people its even more unacceptable. If this is the way they plan to do things, then OS4 is a failure before it even gets released.

[Doobrey]

So Amiga Inc want to get two bites of the OS4 cherry?
#1 From the hardware/porting license
#2 From royalties of OS4 sales

No wonder they got into financial troubles. The words "brewery" and "piss up" spring to mind.

[asian1]

There is a case of US Department of Labor vs Mai Logic about wage dispute:

DOL vs Mai Logic

Apparently Mai Logic did not pay its employees.

If MAI Logic really went bankrupt, this the REAL proof of the famous AMIGA CURSE:

A: Amiga, C: Commodore, E: Escom, G: Gateway (in financial problems several years ago), I: Invisible Hand, K: Kouri Capital (2001), M: Mai Logic.

I suspect that M is actually Motorola, but Motorola had spin off the loss making Freescale Semiconductor (in financial problems).

Which company will become the next victim?
Is it the hoax "Orion" PowerPC 970 / G5 company?

[strobe]

asian1 wrote:

Apparently Mai Logic did not pay its employees.

Wow, I guess they really were an Amiga company.

[Holley]

Hahaha!

There's some interesting stuff not hapenning over at Amigaworld (namely the 20 questions thing), and various other little comments about lack of feedback from companies etc.

On the plus side, I'm getting a real nostalgic feeling from this thread :-D

At least MOS seems to have got a second wind, and AROS PPC exists now, so even in the worst case scenario it won't be the end of the world ...