My A1G4XE setup will be like this (when the mobo arrives)..

[Alkemyst]

@Helgis75

That is from the true site.

But i would not worry yet.

As eyetech are not Terrasoft.

See what eyetech have to say first as this is one sided ATM.

[downix]

alx wrote:
Anyone remember a few months back when a load of people were saying that the A1-G3SE would never be made, that A inc had given up, that there wouldn't ever be an AmigaONE?  I wonder if they still think that :-)

I would point out that the A1-G3SE was cancelled sooner than it was released.  So it technically wasn't made.  A few earlybird boards got delivered, but not even all of the orders were fulfilled.  So I'd call that prediction quite accurate.

And there still isn't an AmigaONE as originally promiced.  You know, the plug-in card for your A1200?

[Kronos]

@Helgis/alx

TerraSoft is bigger than Eyetech and chances are that they would
sell more boards. If this company refuses to give any release
dates on their page, and now even deletes the little info they had their....

On the other side we have Eyetech who's excuses have been in the last weeks:

a) the BIOS ain't finished, odd thin is that Hand J. Frieden wrote it
would have been finished weeks ago.

b) Moto doesn't deliever the CPUs, Even if one believes that it still
raises the question why they don't deliever the A1-XE-G3 with IBM-CPU
than ?

c) they are on the way, but honestly delievery from Taiwan doesn't
take weeks in this day and age.

So could it be that all these delays have somthing to do with
the board itself or the northbridge used on it ?


edit:

Wow typing with such a lag is real pain ....

[Helgis75]

Well, AmigaOnes are not the same as the Teron boards, as further modifications have been done by Eyetech, but originally AmigaOne is based on the same Teron-technology, yes..But it's only the Teron boards that face problems with delivery now. That doesn't necessarily mean it happens to the AmigaOne..

By the way, AmigaOne is actually underway from Taiwan at the moment, soon ready for shipping after successful beta-testing..When speaking of OS4, it may not be ready until April/May, but Fleecy told me in a mail that they don't want to release half-finished products as most competitors do. Amiga wants to ensure high-quality products as best as possible. I can tell you that when OS4 finally gets out, you will have the hottest and the best PPC-OS yet to date, and i am definitely not kidding!!!

[Kronos]

@Helgis

The Terons (MK2) promised by TerraSoft are 100% identical with
those promised by Eyetech.

The same onboard-audio, the same BIOS (U-Boot) the same southbridge
and yes the way the AGP-slot interfers with the 1st PCI is also the same.

[Helgis75]

Kronos wrote:
@Helgis

The Terons (MK2) promised by TerraSoft are 100% identical with
those promised by Eyetech.

The same onboard-audio, the same BIOS (U-Boot) the same southbridge
and yes the way the AGP-slot interfers with the 1st PCI is also the same.

To a certain point of view yes, but remember that Eyetech have done their own modifications. Mai only provided the controller chips for these. There will be a new press-release considering the AmigaOne during the next week, and Alan will speak about the AmigaOne and its' future. Don't worry...Trust me..

[downix]

@Helgis75

Uh...

Eyetech just resells the Teron boards supplied by Mai.  They don't build any boards, nor designed any boards, on their own.  it *is* the Teron board from Mai.

[Kronos]

Eyetech ?

You mean the guy who really thought the Escena-board would ever run ?
The one who talked about a A1200_2_PCI-bridge ?
Who wanted to put a BGA-socket onto a consumer product ?

 :lol:

There is noone at Eyetech capable of this, and anything they order in
the far east will also find it's way onto the "normal" Teron, cause
there is no way of finacing something like that back just in the Amiga-
market.

[Helgis75]

downix wrote:
@Helgis75

Uh...

Eyetech just resells the Teron boards supplied by Mai.  They don't build any boards, nor designed any boards, on their own.  it *is* the Teron board from Mai.

It's not quite true. Eyetech did their own modifications to the motherboard. The technology is from Mai Logic, yes. That's true, but Eyetech bought the rights to use the Teron-technology to build AmigaOne-motherboards. Don't forget that. One of the things that happened under the betatesting of AmigaOne-XE mobos in Taiwan, was the intergration of a brand new Firmware. Hyperion will bring up a pressrelease about this shortly...You'll definitely love the features. Also remember that Hyperion allianced with SciTech Software bringing in support of over 170 different graphic systems to AmigaOS! This definitely tells a lot...!

[downix]

It's not quite true. Eyetech did their own modifications to the motherboard.

Please, point out where any traces were modified, chips changed, etc on the design.  Please, I'd like to see a hardware change in the design.

[Helgis75]

The original design was AmigaOne A1200 which had 6 PCI slots and the bridge-connection, then came the Teron-design. The ORIGINAL Teron-design you see on the Teron-boards. One of the changes were to refusing the AMR-slot on the XE-motherboards and intergration of audio with codecs. See this on the latest XE-pictures. These modifications were done by Eyetech in conjuction with Hyperion, Amiga and Mai...Now you get the picture right...

[Kronos]

and gues what ..... these mobos (without the AMR-slot) are
mobos TerraSoft wants(ed) to sell .....

[downix]

@Helgis75

Uh...

those changes were on the Teron PX before Eyetech even had the older "built-in-CPU" G3 boards.

So please, try again.

[Darth_X]

AmigaOnes are not the same as the Teron boards, as further modifications have been done by Eyetech

Eyetech only sell the boards, they aren't a hardware engineering firm.

The terrasoft BoXeR and the AmigaONE motherboard are  rebadged MAI Teron motherboards. The AmigaONE motherboard factory default BIOS has been replaced with a BIOS (developed by Hyperion?) that boots directly into AmigaOS4. *yawn* not that big of deal anyways... :-D

AmigaOne is actually underway from Taiwan at the moment, soon ready for shipping after successful beta-testing

If a giant Linux company like Terrasoft can't get boards in time for their customers, I doubt a small Amiga retailer like Eyesoft can get them on time either. *Yawn*

Fleecy told me in a mail that they don't want to release half-finished products as most competitors do

Obviously you don't release a half finished product for your customers, but not providing a BETA AmigaOS4 to show potential developers is a problem.

[Seehund]

Helgis75 wrote:

downix wrote:
@Helgis75

Uh...

Eyetech just resells the Teron boards supplied by Mai.  They don't build any boards, nor designed any boards, on their own.  it *is* the Teron board from Mai.

It's not quite true. Eyetech did their own modifications to the motherboard. The technology is from Mai Logic, yes. That's true, but Eyetech bought the rights to use the Teron-technology to build AmigaOne-motherboards.

You seem to be very confused on this point. If you've only been reading those weird Eyetech press-releases about "new Amigas" and other nonsense I don't blame you though... I remember them even introducing the "AmigaOne SE" with "it is not a Teron CX"! Amazing, really.

"AmigaOne XE" is the trademark that one distributor, Eyetech, will use to market Teron PX boards. "AmigaOne SE" was the trademark that the same distributor was to use for marketing Teron CX boards (before those were discontinued).

Eyetech has no control whatsoever over hardware design or product planning. Eyetech is a distributor. Period.

Don't forget that. One of the things that happened under the betatesting of AmigaOne-XE mobos in Taiwan, was the intergration of a brand new Firmware.

The firmware is not hardware design, and it is also to be delivered with all Teron boards, regardless of distributor. It has nothing to do with Eyetech. Also, you don't need to go to Taiwan to "integrate" firmware (whatever the hell you mean by that? Develop it? Flash it on a mobo?)

Hyperion will bring up a pressrelease about this shortly...You'll definitely love the features. Also remember that Hyperion allianced with SciTech Software bringing in support of over 170 different graphic systems to AmigaOS! This definitely tells a lot...!

None of which has anything to do with that "AmigaOne XE" is a licensed trademark for the Teron PX, and that Eyetech has nothing to do with the design of the product. They buy boards, then they sell them. Simple as that. Be happy that it's at least not a custom job and even more overpriced than it already has been made.

The only difference between a Teron sold by Eyetech and a "normal" Teron sold by anybody else is that the Eyetech Teron will some time in an undefined future have a code added to the firmware in order to control the hardware market available for AmigaOS users. That's not even a technical/functional difference, but more of a marketing/distribution difference.

[ple3003]

And now guess why I allready knew who posted this after I just saw the topic .......

Ha ha ha... LOL Exactly what I was thinking  :lol: