Hi all! Newbie who's won an A600 on eBay and needs help...!

[luckydavid]

Hi all!

I'm an old time A1200 owner from way-way back in the day, who's decided that the most important things in the world was to play Sensible World of Soccer on the Amiga again!  So, I've won a Amiga A600 on eBay with Extra RAM and a HD (allegedly):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8187536682&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT
and a copy of Sensible World of Soccer 95/96 and a Zipstick to take me back to all those wasted days...

My issue is that I've turned the A600 on, and it comes to the screen with the image of a disk being inserted into a drive.  The seller of the A600 auction stated that he thought I needed the "Kickstart disks", but I'm thinking that I might in fact be needing the Workbench Disks - am I right?

Also, I've just put the Disk 1 of the Sensible Soccer game into DF0: and the Amiga spins it up, clicks a couple of times and returns back to the same start screen.  Am I right in guessing that there may be something not quite right with the disks?  The SWOS box states that the game should work with all Amiga computers of 1Mb and over, and the RAM upgrade that I have checked to see it is there should take me over that magical figure, no?

Thirdly, if - hypothetically - I were to get hold of a downloaded 'ADF' ROM for SWOS that I had used successfully with WinUAE, is there any way I can put that information onto a 3.5" floppy to run on my new Amiga?  I understand it would have to go on a 720kB disk (I guess), but I'm concerned that - again hypothetically - the file size for such an ADF disk image is 880kB and would it transfer onto a 720 disk?

I really hope someone out there with a bigger brain than mine can explain what I need to do in English!

Regards,

David.

[countzero]

you don't need any kickstart disks, they were only meant for the amiga 1000 AFAIK. But maybe he meant you need something like a softkick or relokick style program which puts the 1.3 kickrom into memory so you can run kick 2 incompatible games. But SWOS should be able to run on amiga 600 without relokick. I think it sounds more like a floppy drive problem. Maybe you should buy a floppy cleaning kit, I saved a drive using one of those.

[luckydavid]

Hi again!  have done some searching and found some ideas for moving ADFs to Amiga disks...quick question is where can you find ADF2Disk on Aminet - I've been to us.aminet.net and searched on ADF2Disk but all I get is a page full of html text and no idea where to look for a download - any ideas?

Also, my A600 seems to have Kickstart 2.0 - can I buy Workbench 3.1 / 3.5 or even 2.04 as the eBay auction I won didn't come with these - any ideas?

David.

[badalias]

David:

Aminet's main page is at http://aminet.net/ and if you type a few keywords into the search box in the top right, you should be able to find what you need... You can download ADF2Disk here, but it needs to be on a working amiga to use it.

Read this thread for more info on converting ADF files to real Amiga disks. It tells the story of how I got this to work for me.

The  auction page you linked to says that you need Kickstart disks, which probably means that you also need Workbench disks too, but I may  be wrong as I only just started learning about my A1000 not long ago and have no experience with any other model of Amiga... I have a spare set of Workbench 2.05 disks (with original Amiga labels) that I'd be willing to part with, if you need them. I know they'll partially (as far as Amiga DOS) boot my A1000 under Kickstart 1.3, but have no idea of their completeness... I also have Workbench 1.3 disks (with original Amiga labels) and a non-original Kickstart 1.3 disk. Read this post for more details about which disks I have. If you're interested in any of this, e-mail me at mkingsmill@yahoo.com?subject=Amiga disks, and we'll work something out...

Matt K.

[SamuraiCrow]

Regarding the 720k disks.  That's the capacity if formatted to PC format.  Amiga can store 11 sectors per track instead of 9 so it can hold 880k if formatted for Amiga.  A plain PC needs a better floppy drive controller to read or write Amiga formatted disks so you'd be better off getting the Workbench disks which come with CrossDOS which will let you read PC formatted disks.  You will need to use WinZip or LhA to compress the .ADF to 720k to do the transfer.

When you get the chance, you'll probably want to get a 2.5 inch hard drive and 3.1 kickstart ROM for your A600 if you want to run newer software on it but if you're content with using your PC for browsing the internet and playing multimedia files (which would also require you to get an accelerator board which are rare for A600) then stick with Workbench 2.1 .  The only other advantage to Workbench 3.9 is that you can use hard drives that are larger than 4 gigs.  You may be able to do this with IDEFix software also.  If and when you get a hard drive make sure your boot partition is less than 2 gigs so that it won't get corrupted and overwritten before the new IDE drivers load in.