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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2003, 03:22:21 AM »
Of course it kills the Amiga, thats why it was one of the best selling Amiga products in years.

Face it, Amiga emulation offers the users more than a real Amiga ever could but never mind your years of anti Amiga emulators trolling will continue.
 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2003, 03:26:50 AM »
mhm... its selling good.. and in the end.. there wont be any marked for AmigaONE... simply because people thinks cheap... some will buy, but that will be most Classic Amiga users or people wich have really waited for a new Amiga computer.


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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2003, 03:45:16 AM »
@AmiDelf

I'm so sick of hearing ignorant people like
yourself putting #### on AMIthlon. So what, unix
also belonged to 68k & now we have linux on x86.
Amiga1 is nothing more than a pc. In the end all
it boils down to is choice of cpu. My 060 sits
in a corner collecting dust. My xp2200+ cpu is
35x faster. I do not have shares in motorola
or AMD. I just want my amiga os to fly. Classic
amiga as we knew it is dead.
So please get over it. If you dont like the topic
the please #### off.
 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2003, 03:50:40 AM »
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You should get a Classic Amiga or just wait for AmigaONE...


@DaveP

I posted in a thread and you asked for 'proof' of what I said in it...

the above is an example of my proof...

 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2003, 03:54:37 AM »
oki... when people starts to ask our staff things like this:

"I've never used AmigaOS before? Does it need 1gb HD space on x86?"

"Did AmigaOS start up under Amithlon?"

and others stupid questions about amigaos, just because of Amithlon.

If you dont really get what I am into, why do you use AmigaOS at all then? For fun, for showing off that you wont buying AmigaONE? Showing off that Classic Amiga people dosent need to buy any SharkPPC? For what purpouse?...

Do you want to show off AmigaOS? Get a real Amiga and then it shows its real strength! Not under Amithlon...

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2003, 04:03:37 AM »
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"I've never used AmigaOS before? Does it need 1gb HD space on x86?"  "Did AmigaOS start up under Amithlon?"


Oh no we don't want that, because it would mean we had a NEW
user for AmigaOS .....

Lets face it, "classic" are to old an expensive to be of any
real use today (for someone new to Amiga).

The A1 can't be used as an Amiga atm, isn't really shipping
and the entry-price is much to high for a great part of those who
might be interested.

The Peg can be used as an Amiga, but availabilty is running out,
and everybody who owns one gets a certain target for hatred just
like those using Amithlon ....

Amithlon made people continue to use AmigaOS who otherwise would
have left due the delays and delays on the PPC-systems.

Same goes for lots of developers, and the decision to do a
special x86 should be based on possible sales, not on fanatism.

I also fail to remember anybody ever demanding x86 code in SW-products,
only that developers shouldn't forget Amithlon-user, by making
PPC-only SW.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2003, 04:09:52 AM »
Amithlon... pfft..

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2003, 04:12:04 AM »
AmiDelf

1. I started this thread because I have had technical issues with my installation of Amithlon.

2. Amithlon HELPS the Amiga market.  Go look at GoldED.  It's been developed through UAE for YEARS.  Anything, and I mean anything, that brings users and developers to our platform helps it.

3. * I * have developed a few tools for use on the Amiga through Amithlon.

Finally, you are entitled to your opinion, but please do not discourage anyone from getting into the community when they might be on the virge of coming or going.

By the way, I got help for my set up.  Thanks everyone who's tried to help.
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Targhan
 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2003, 04:15:39 AM »
CygnusEd is better...

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2003, 04:24:16 AM »
Makecd is developed under UAE, if those developers stopped you Amiga die hards would be screwed without cd burning software, and i hope they do stop development or never EVER do a version for OS4.

 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2003, 04:28:49 AM »
Youre a real anti-Amiga user for sure, saying so...

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2003, 04:30:44 AM »
Your the one who hates Amiga emulators and the users, so your clearly saying all Amiga developers who make software under emulation must stop making software because they are killing the Amiga.
 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2003, 04:32:33 AM »
It is a wrong way to do it yes...

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2003, 04:53:43 AM »

@AmiDelf


What is real ?
AMIthlon is the 1st system to use P96 3.
Ami1 is 2 years behind and following.
Ami1 will also use JIT
What is real ?
68k JIT on x86 runs 80% speed of native.
68k JIT on PPC runs 75% speed of native.

68k file size is only fraction of the file size
of native.

x86/$ out peforms ppc by far.

If you think that amiga is hardware I'm afraid
you are living in a fantasy.

It is possible to run any OS on any hardware.

Amiga DE will run on many OS's

OS 5 will work natively on x86 also

Wake up.....!!!!!
 

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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
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Re: Amithlon... HELP!
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 09, 2003, 05:20:07 AM »
The AC97 mixer might be what (in combination with some other software) causes the recoverable errors... When I ran it while developing the debugger/monitor/development too for Umilator, it consistently produced "zeropage" accesses (i.e. almost certainly dereferencing a NULL pointer); IIRC, that included writes into that area.

In and by itself, that's relatively harmless (except for bytes 4-7, none of the bytes are used for anything by default, so *one* faulty piece of software often seems to work just fine). It's only in combination with something else which makes the same mistake that you run into almost-impossible-to-track-down trouble...