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WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« on: April 21, 2005, 06:25:35 AM »
I've been using WinUAE for many years and on many different machines.

Recently, I set it up on a machine that accesses the internet through a proxy.  Basically the proxy address is typed into IE's internet option settings.

On the Amiga side I cannot access the internet.  I tried putting in the same proxy information directly into Amiga applications (such as IBrowse) but still no access.

Anyone know if WinUAE will work with such a setup, and if so how to get internet access to the Amiga side?

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2005, 06:52:54 AM »
I assume then that you have TCP/IP working from the WinUAE side? And can ping the IP of the machine that is hosting the virtual machine?
 

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2005, 06:58:24 AM »
Yes, the Amiga side is working and WinUAE is setup correctly. (I don't see a proxy setting option in WinUAE)

The PC can access the internet using Firefox, IE, etc...

Only difference on this machine is that it connects through a proxy.  Something like 168.x.x.x Port 8080  

Amiga connections just time out.

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2005, 07:33:53 AM »
When using virtual machines each must have their own IP address independent of the host machine. There isn't a proxy option in WinUAE, it is either in the Amiga browser itself or within the TCP/IP stack you're using.
 

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2005, 03:31:13 PM »
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or within the TCP/IP stack you're using.


Is there any other place I should have to enter the proxy for the TCP/IP stack other than in Windows Internet Options? I did go to the the Advanced sextion and make sure the proxy was checked to be used on all protocols.

I don't think there really is a "TCP/IP" stack on the Amiga side. I believe it is emulated by WinUAE, so I'm not sure where you'd enter a proxy in to an Amiga Side TCP/IP stack, since there isn't one.

I have tried entering the proxy in to Apps on the Amiga side with no luck.

Thanks for the help...

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2005, 03:38:38 PM »
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When using virtual machines each must have their own IP address independent of the host machine. There isn't a proxy option in WinUAE, it is either in the Amiga browser itself or within the TCP/IP stack you're using.

That's nonsense. WinUAE bsdsocket.library emulation shares the current network connection, that is both emulation and the windows use the same IP address.
 

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2005, 04:04:31 PM »
Ok, I just did a little test.

I took a machine that doesn't use a prxoy and where WinUAE can access the internet fine.

I entered a fake proxy into Windows Internet Options.

Doing that made it so I could no longer access the internet using IE, etc.

When I ran WinUAE though I could access the internet just fine from there.

Obviously the proxy option in Windows has no effect what-so-ever on WinUAE.  So how to make bsdsocket.library emulation go through a proxy is the question I think....

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2005, 06:28:46 PM »
Applications have to support using proxies. The proxy settings in Internet Explorer apply only to Internet Explorer and applications designed to read and use Internet Explorer's proxy settings.

As Piru said, WinUAE's bsdsocket.library emulation just passes calls to the library's functions (e.g. select) to the equivilent operating system call. It's just a wrapper. So, the Amiga application must support the type of proxy used on your network. After you've determined the type of proxy, contact the application author if possible and ask them if it's supported. Or post the question here. . . .

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2005, 11:45:53 PM »
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When using virtual machines each must have their own IP address independent of the host machine. There isn't a proxy option in WinUAE, it is either in the Amiga browser itself or within the TCP/IP stack you're using.

That's nonsense. WinUAE bsdsocket.library emulation shares the current network connection, that is both emulation and the windows use the same IP address.


So what you're saying is, the emulated Workbench doesn't need a TCP/IP stack in order to get TCP/IP functionality?
 

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2005, 12:00:26 AM »
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So what you're saying is, the emulated Workbench doesn't need a TCP/IP stack in order to get TCP/IP functionality?

Precisely.
 

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Re: WinUAE internet access on PC with Proxy?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2005, 07:43:02 AM »
I access the Internet though  a proxy with both winuae and an A3000t. You set up the proxy the same on winuae as a "real" Amiga. In your example you would enter the proxy in the Ibrowse settings. I usually use Aweb and with it you enter the port nume after the proxy address and a : ie proxy.url.com:8080 In Ibrows the proxy settings are in the settings menu then choose the plus sign next to network then click on proxy. Hope this helps.

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Xerxes
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