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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2003, 03:53:48 PM »
@Rassilon

Cheers for that.  I've checked their site, they only sell the Apollo cards, and they're a bit more expensive than Eyetech.

I've just emailed Vesalia about timing probs between 1D4 and the Blizzard 1240.  Hopefully I'll get a reply by tomorrow morning.


I just wish I'd ordered the Blizzard from Power Computing (and asked them about the timing probs) when I had the chance.  According to Vesalia's site, they've stopped producing the Blizzard cards now :-(
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2003, 04:25:54 PM »
Hi Vincent

I gotta warn you it's not in good condition, the strain of a SIMM pushing against the ROM caused grief after a bit. It was an early revsion, later ones were much better designed. Expect the odd red or yellow startup screen. Anyway, it's 25MHz 68040/FPU/MMU, single SIMM socket, no SCSI. You can clock it to 30MHz reasonably but the FPU falls over sometimes. The fan is a bit puny and it's damn noisy!

That said, I have to find the flipping thing first ;-)

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Also, if any accelerator ever was going to have timing problems it would be this one :-P
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2003, 04:32:11 PM »
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The fan is a bit puny and it's damn noisy!


 :lol:

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That said, I have to find the flipping thing first ;-)


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I know how that feels, I can't find 2 16Mb simms and 2 32Mb simms that a got a month ago ;-)

If it's only gonna be £10, it doesn't really matter about the condition ;-)
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2003, 05:13:41 PM »
@Vincent:

Make sure you do get a 40MHz 040. 25 MHz 040's are still dog slow =).

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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2003, 05:14:13 PM »
I have such a revision Amiga board.

A Blizzard 1230-IV worked in it and a BlizzardPPC too.

I think you're allright with any Blizzard card!!!!

Just buy a second hand Blizzard 1230-IV or higher. Can't go wrong I think. These boards are sollid as a house and you can use Blizkick.  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2003, 06:06:36 PM »
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@Vincent:

Make sure you do get a 40MHz 040. 25 MHz 040's are still dog slow =).


Yeah, I know they're still a bit slow.  I'm (hopefully) gonna get Apollo '040 MMU/FPU 40MHz with the extra simm socket.  I might have to wait a week before I order it though.



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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2003, 09:40:50 AM »
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@Vincent:

Make sure you do get a 40MHz 040. 25 MHz 040's are still dog slow =).


Hey, my BlizzPPC setup has a 25MHz 040 still. It's not that slow for everyday use. Having said that, the PPC datatypes etc. may be helping :-)
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2003, 10:02:14 AM »
Hi Vincent,

Did you check out those Viper accelerators
out at Vesalia? Check under their previews
section. They're due in  on the 15th, and
the '060 with 64megs is going to sell
for about 230 euros. In my honest opinion,
the '060 is well worth the extra money...
I think you could pick up that new Viper
'060 card for the price of the current '040
Blizzard (the '040 is fine, but if you're
not going PPC get the '060 :))

I'm running a Blizzard 1260 with a 1D4 (escom)
motherboard with zero problems.

AFAIK The Apollo cards can't be disabled like
the Blizzard (and probably Viper) cards can be
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2003, 10:33:22 AM »
@Lorddef

I have also a 1d4 1200 mobbo revision.

Do you know where to get the info uin order to make the timming fix?

I have got a Mediator and It seems to recognice the pci devices when it wants.

I dunno what´s the pro. maybe the timming!

I have and 040@33 and PPC@266 and when it boots (recognice the pcis) in the picasso mode it´s fast enough. Warpdatatypes rules!
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2003, 10:38:10 AM »
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I have and 040@33 and PPC@266 and when it boots (recognice the pcis) in the picasso mode it´s fast enough. Warpdatatypes rules!


Overclocked?
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2003, 10:57:01 AM »
Yep. It´s overclocked, but the accelerator works like a charm in overclock mode.I have benn testing over AGA for over a year.

I also thought maybe the overclock, but I have tried with an 030 blizzard 4 and the result its the same: intermitent pcis recognition.

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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2003, 11:59:42 AM »
I asked Power Computing (eyetech said they couldnt tell me so I shold send my board to them and they would rip me off for a 5 minute job).

Basically:

revision 1D.4 with Budgie revision 1 requires E123C and E125C removing from motherboard

revision 1D.4 with Budgie revision 2 also requires removing one of the smt resistors and moving it somewhwere else.

I only have Budgie revision 1, so I didn't need to do the second bit, thats why I'm unsure what you have to do there.  Give Power Computing an email, they'll tell you. :-)
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2003, 01:29:36 PM »
Overclocked the BlizzardPPC, eh?

What about cooling? I dont have a fan on my 040 (but do have a big heatsink) - I couldn't if I wanted to, not without milling a hole in the side of my tower.

My old 040 card had problems at 33MHz, the FPU used to go manky after a few minutes.
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2003, 02:45:58 PM »
You could try ebay ive seen some 030 based cards and there was an 060 but that was qiute a high price .  :-?
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2003, 02:58:00 PM »
Yeah.....

Why is there no one that knows this stuff, puts it in a guide and place it on Aminet!

I can fix these things easilly myself
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Re: A1200 Rev 1D4 accelerator
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 06, 2003, 03:13:28 PM »
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-D- wrote:
Hi Vincent,

Did you check out those Viper accelerators
out at Vesalia? Check under their previews
section. They're due in  on the 15th, and
the '060 with 64megs is going to sell
for about 230 euros. In my honest opinion,
the '060 is well worth the extra money...
I think you could pick up that new Viper
'060 card for the price of the current '040
Blizzard (the '040 is fine, but if you're
not going PPC get the '060 :))

I'm running a Blizzard 1260 with a 1D4 (escom)
motherboard with zero problems.

AFAIK The Apollo cards can't be disabled like
the Blizzard (and probably Viper) cards can be
for compatability.


Thanks for pointing them out -D-.

I've actually emailed them about their Blizzard boards, but haven't got a reply yet.  I'm not wanting to buy from a company that doesn't reply to their customers.  What if I need a replacement/help/etc?

I think I'll be buying from somewhere in the UK (which probably means Eyetech), but I'm going to wait until next week when I (should) have answers from Vesalia/Eyetech/AmigaDeals.

@odin

The 030/40 that I've got runs at 7.11Mips (from sysinfo), so I know what slow is like ;-)

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Yeah.....

Why is there no one that knows this stuff, puts it in a guide and place it on Aminet!

I can fix these things easilly myself


That's a great idea :-D

Anyone willing to do that for us unknowledgables? :-)
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