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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2003, 04:15:35 PM »
@MarkTime

No problem. English is just my third language.  :-D
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2003, 04:26:58 PM »
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Your response was less than helpful.


I am not here to help.

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If you don't have anything to say, why post?

Just to harass already over frustrated amigans?


I just corrected wrong claims by someone. I am not here to help someone. If you call correcting false information "harrassment", then yes, that is what I did.

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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2003, 04:28:34 PM »
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Too much Caffeine...  :-D
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2003, 04:36:54 PM »
>Will they exhibit the product on Microsoft, Motorola, IBM or other companies' stand?

Come on ! Get real ;)

Do you really imagine Microsoft showing a concurrent (PPC by the way !) OS on their booth ??

They have not reserved any booth because they have nothing to show and/or they don't have money, that's it !

That's my thought...

 @Hyperion guys: feel free to show me (and everyone) I'm wrong...

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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2003, 04:38:35 PM »
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Too much Caffeine...  :-D


No, too little rest.

To get to the point, I am not here to answer the question, and I don't care if anyone thinks I am trolling or not. What I did was correct a few false claims. I didn't say anything else. All I did say was

- U-Boot for the XE is finished
- The new Articia sillicon is finished, and I have it since quite some time.
- I was offended by the "buggy OS 4 modules".

I can accept that people are frustrated. So am I. Like I said before the community doesn't pay my bills. That is something that I have to manage myself. The only way is to go for third party development. That causes delays for OS 4. I'm sorry, but it cannot be helped. Accept it, or don't, but leave me in peace.
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2003, 04:40:25 PM »
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 @Hyperion guys: feel free to show me (and everyone) I'm wrong...

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I'm afraid that the Hyperion devs can't care less, and I guess that's the right thing for them to do. Rather, it's HyperionMP that should give such information to the public.
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2003, 04:45:48 PM »
@Rogue

Thanks for your commitment. BTW, I have a 2yo daughter, and I know what "too little rest" means  :-D

But now, frankly, I think that HyperionMP should take care of this "expectation management" stuff  rather than you or EntailZha... this is part of the business after all, don't you think?

And then, demoing OS4 doesn't mean it has to be finished, of course (I should know this pretty well... sigh...)
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2003, 04:51:16 PM »
@Rogue

why not respond to that guys other post where he posted that text from Amiga.inc saying the A1 was in it's final testing stages in 2002?...
and that AOS4 would 'launch' at cebit? will you at least say if 'THAT" is true or false? ...and if it is true or if its a 'no comment'... then can you explain what Asian1 pointed out in his post?


 

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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2003, 04:55:02 PM »
@mips_proc

You're teasing the wrong person, IMHO.
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2003, 05:02:59 PM »
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why not respond to that guys other post where he posted that text from Amiga.inc saying the A1 was in it's final testing stages in 2002?...


Because, as I said, I am not here to answer questions. I choose to answer those that I want, and I choose to correct whatever I think or know is false. Period.

I don't make official statements. All I did (and I am growing tired of repeating myself) is point out some false claims in JurrasicCamper's post. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have more questions, I suggest you direct them at Amiga Inc.
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2003, 05:54:42 PM »
Anybody who has followed the news should know that there will not be any release from OS4 at Cebit. It isn't finished.

Hope this answers your question.
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2003, 06:19:19 PM »
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- U-Boot for the XE is finished
- The new Articia sillicon is finished, and I have it since quite some time.

Thats great :-D  Thanks for the clarification.

Hopfully this means it wont be too long before the latest XE's are sent out:-)
 

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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2003, 06:31:49 PM »
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Like I said before the community doesn't pay my bills. ... . The only way is to go for third party development. That causes delays for OS 4.


Understood, but when you have the product for sale, we will be glad to pay you so you can pay your bills!:-P


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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2003, 06:48:05 PM »
@Rogue

quote: I'm not here to help.

response:  fair enough, but may I suggest that being helpful is a good quality.

quote: if you call correcting false information "harassment", then yes, that is what I did.

No, I don't call that harassment.  What I call harassment, is where someone's position is worn down via repetition, rather than through intellectual discourse.

By that definition you are not just the harasser, but also being harassed.  Which is true enough.  I suppose by the same line of thinking, in which you are not here to help, many people are not here to help you or accept your answers.

But, I suggest harassment on both sides is not especially helpful and therefore not recommended, but nevertheless it seems to be the only choice left, when one side has stated repeatedly that they will not engage in any other type of discussion.

But, as much as I enjoy posting commentary, I will also say this....I can see your position.  If you don't have anything to say, just what the heck are you supposed to say.

It's not finished...I personally don't expect you to announce your failure to complete the project on a week by week basis.  Such an exercise in humiliation would not really serve any purpose.  I do think people should buy into other choices, considering the failure...not excuse it, but not go around expecting unreasonable solutions.

My personal stance is that I'm disappointed that the product is not completed, and ultimately I do blame Amiga, Inc. and not Hyperion.

I seem to be in the minority on this, but Amiga, Inc. owns the IP, they have the responsibility to complete this....if they are doing it through a contractor, or through osmosis, I don't care....they coulda/woulda/shoulda didn't.
 

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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2003, 06:56:52 PM »
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I don't make official statements. All I did (and I am growing tired of repeating myself) is point out some false claims in JurrasicCamper's post. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have more questions, I suggest you direct them at Amiga Inc.




Why dont you answer the question then. Saying my point about the firmware not being done is wrong.

Well if it is done, I stand corrected, but answer me this then why did the A1-XE G4s not ship on the 24 Feb 2003

There are 3 working Linux distros working on the XE so thats not the reason.

The boards have been built so thats not the reason.

I have respect for you are doing. But lets just get one thing straight.

Alan posted on the DEV list on the 25 Feb 2003 @ 18:18 Hours that......
Hyperion would be sending the final firmware by friday. (28 Feb 2003).

So at that time the firmware was not finished. There has been nothing to contradict this statement appart from you saying that it has been finished for weeks.

Now I dont disagree that there is a version of u-boot to get the board going.

It may not be the final version, but if you are saying its been finished for weeks and alan said he expected delivery 2 working days ago then someone is telling porkies and it aint me.

Care to explain ????
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Re: Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!
« Reply #59 from previous page: March 04, 2003, 07:05:37 PM »
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Well if it is done, I stand corrected, but answer me this then why did the A1-XE G4s not ship on the 24 Feb 2003

I beleive the shipping date of the 24th was from the Taiwan factory, not to users.  The 28th was the date Eyetech could have received the board by.

Eyetech also said these were estimated  dates.