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InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« on: March 28, 2005, 03:49:15 AM »
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I was bored at home since my Telephone line was out the whole weekend, when I saw this or similar product at the tv. I was intrigued by the way it functions. It emmits Far IR(Infra Red)light while it massages that part of the body, it gives a warm sensation, something with money would just shell out and try out this product immediately, and, according to them, has been proven effective. It got me curious to find out about IR.

I've done a few searches concerning IR and according to a site, the Far Infrared Ray is a spectrum of the sun's energy that burns your excess fats, calories and works to heal your body and maintain your health.

What Far Infrared Ray can do?
* increases your metabolism
* burns your excess fats and extra calories
* improves your body curve as it gets rid of flab
* eliminates your fatigue rapidly
* regulates your autonomic nervous system better
* improves your blood circulation
* promotes rapid healing

Actually, I got this info from a slimming undergarment site. :-D anyhow... know any side effects? like when overuse, it'll irritate the skin or give it a sun burn or somthing like that? Of course, most site will not give out negative publicity about this. So I want to hear from you if it does or know any side effects?

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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2005, 12:10:00 PM »
Well, I wouldn't trust it for the world to produce a slimming effect save for local dehydration. There is nothing special about the far infrared spectrum: both fatty and normal tissue will absorb parts of the spectrum and thus produce a nice, warm sensation. If the radiation flux is high enough so that fats begin to 'burn', you get the equivalent of a sputtering candle. Or of cooking meat---think an electric grill here :-).  In other words: I'd take the 'fat burning' with a pinch of salt if I were you :-).

However, local heating does have some medical benefits. It soothes certain types of pain, and helps you relax. I remember that my parents had a cat whose favourite place was right in front of a normal glow bulb. I replaced it with an infrared lamp as it was friendlier to the eyes and more efficient at producing IR, and after that you couldn't get her to move with a crowbar :-).
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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2005, 08:53:59 AM »
The best method of slimming I know is to burn more calories than you absorb....
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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2005, 11:10:21 PM »
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The best method of slimming I know is to burn more calories than you absorb....
Well, the best method of slimming I know is liposuction.
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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2005, 12:49:14 AM »
Greetings,
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The best method of slimming I know is to burn more calories than you absorb....
Well, the best method of slimming I know is liposuction.


Dieting is one good example. However, some ppl's metabolism don't, specially in her early 30's or so. Specifically some women who want to shed flabs off yet tried dieting, still no effect.
Liposuction! :-o too expensive but a real effective treatment, still they'll have to puncture you to 'suck' all the fattie flabs out of you. I remeber one case of an illegitimate dermatologist 'killed' her patient due to malpractice. :-o I'll pass lipo!!

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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2005, 10:07:35 AM »
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Greetings,
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The best method of slimming I know is to burn more calories than you absorb....
Well, the best method of slimming I know is liposuction.


Dieting is one good example. However, some ppl's metabolism don't, specially in her early 30's or so. Specifically some women who want to shed flabs off yet tried dieting, still no effect.


I noticed that when I tried to loose some weight, if you eat less calories, your body adapts... It conserves resources...

But when I tried atkins, because I was still eating a normal amount (but without refined carbohydrates), I lost nearly 2 stone in as many months.

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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2005, 10:40:36 AM »
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I noticed that when I tried to loose some weight, if you eat less calories, your body adapts... It conserves resources...

That is why you must excercise as well. There is no miracle cure for dieting: swallowing less calories and making sure your body needs every scrap of energy it can muster is the only way. I'm off for my 100 lanes of swimming now :-).

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But when I tried atkins, because I was still eating a normal amount (but without refined carbohydrates), I lost nearly 2 stone in as many months.

Funny how the good doctor died showing severe signs of obesity... (His QI, which despite not being a very good indicator still gives you some indication, especially in the extremes, was over 35. That is definitely not good.)
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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2005, 11:13:12 AM »
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I noticed that when I tried to loose some weight, if you eat less calories, your body adapts... It conserves resources...

That is why you must excercise as well. There is no miracle cure for dieting: swallowing less calories and making sure your body needs every scrap of energy it can muster is the only way. I'm off for my 100 lanes of swimming now :-).



Ahh poop... I knew I was doing something wrong.

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But when I tried atkins, because I was still eating a normal amount (but without refined carbohydrates), I lost nearly 2 stone in as many months.

Funny how the good doctor died showing severe signs of obesity... (His QI, which despite not being a very good indicator still gives you some indication, especially in the extremes, was over 35. That is definitely not good.)


I don't really care for the doctor, but he was right. Refined carbohydrates are not good...

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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2005, 12:53:32 PM »
Greetings,

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I don't really care for the doctor, but he was right. Refined carbohydrates are not good...



Any food synthethically produced always have adverse side effects on the body, that's why there's still natural vegtables extracts, a proper diet and excercise is still the best possible route to good health.

Those Zen meditation sounds good too. :-) I would like try that! A clear mind and body. A secret to longer life. ;-)

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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2005, 01:15:58 PM »
When I was sixteen I had a six pack and worked out by smoking ten a day, drinking nine pints a week and walking home with a doner kebab (with turbo chilli) at the end of a night out.

Fifteen years on, my waist measurement is exactly the same although the six pack is slightly fuzzy around the edges and occasionally becomes a four pack or even a two pack depending on the season.  

I no longer smoke, nor do I eat red meat.  My exercise regieme is as follows:

Monday: Gym
Tuesday: Swim 1 mile
Wednesday: 1 hour hardcore power pacing
Thursday: Swim 1 mile
Friday: Gym or 2 hours cycling
Saturday: Swim 1 mile or gym
Sunday: 2 hours cycling / swim 1 mile

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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2005, 02:23:32 PM »
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Any food synthethically produced always have adverse side effects on the body, that's why there's still natural vegtables extracts, a proper diet and excercise is still the best possible route to good health.

Unfortunately, refined carbohydrates are anything *but* synthetic in origin. They are 100% natural in origin. The only thing is that our bodies can almost immediately begin absorbing the saccharose. When faced with other carbohydrates, such as for example cellulose, we need bacteria in the lining of the gut to break the stuff down---we can't do so on our own.

In addition, the entire 'synthetic' vs. 'natural' thing is a load of bovine scatology in my quite arrogant opinion. Chemically, there is no distinction whatsoever between a natural compound and an atrifically produced one, they are made up of exactly the same molecules. The difference is between the ears, and on your bank statement :-).
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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2005, 02:28:46 PM »
@PMC:

Good excercise regime. Be very careful when circumstances dictate you should reduce the frequency of excercise, you are likely to end up at your local GP with symptoms of arrythmia if not carefully 'trained down', so to speak. I speak from personal experience, and it isn't fun.

I really need to get my bike fixed and do some cycling again---I swim 3 times a week (2.5 km), but I miss the outdoors.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2005, 05:32:18 PM »
It's become a matter of almost religious devotion over the years, partly because it's been theraputic for my own SAD condition and partly because it's awakened a competitive instinct in me.  I feel better for being fit(er) and tend to fit my social life in around exercise rather than the other way around.

I've had to learn the hard way that too much training is a very bad thing, as I used to gym twice a week and take myself to the brink of physical exhaustion every time.  It's better to go more often and do less than to go relatively infrequently and make up for lost time.

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Re: InfraRed, science in wieght loss
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2005, 04:15:09 AM »
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I've had to learn the hard way that too much training is a very bad thing, as I used to gym twice a week and take myself to the brink of physical exhaustion every time.  It's better to go more often and do less than to go relatively infrequently and make up for lost time.


You must be one sexy, buff dude by now. With that kind of regieme, you have no room for fat! :-) Try some sauna bath or go to some hot springs to really ease those tensions! :-)
If your wallet is much thinner, sleepping more than 8 hours is still good for your body to recover from those (religoius) training. Good luck with that, PMC. :-)

@Cymric
You're quite right about the whole 'natural' & 'synthetic' point of view. They may be the same material, but the difference in the 'synthetic' method is, for example, a synthetic calcium has added vitamins/minerals and/or may react to our body or could trigger allergies and so on, whereas the naturally extracted calcium from a real source, like a fish, may not. Or is it just the way both were made/produced here? :-)

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