KMOS and Amiga Inc Debt Settlement

[asian1]

>Fairy tale

Hi
I have NO fairytales.
The Ann.Lu post is from Mr Bolton Peck.

I do not know if the post is a fairytales from Mr Peck or not.

There is a possibility that the fake address is just an April Fools joke from Mr Bolton Peck, but he post it on April 2, 2005.

Where is the proof that Eyetech had sold AmigaOne to KMOS office in NY?
What is the exact address?

Is it possible that KMOS had closed its office in NY, or they use other name or address?

Is it possible that Amiga Inc will occupy the new NY office starting April 4, 2005?

[gary_c]

kgrach wrote:

Fact one of the Amigaones Ordered and paid for by KMOS was ordered for and delivered to the New York office this year.

In the IRC session, didn't Garry Hare say something about how long it took for the AmigaOnes to be delivered after being ordered? I wonder if this address confusion had something to do with that.

I don't think Bolton Peck would lie about another company, "Cross Architecture", being at that address (and suite number), not when it could be easily checked either on-line or by a New Yorker in person. He said that company had gotten Amiga mail before, and they actually checked the rest of the building and found no sign of Amiga, Inc.

It could be that Amiga, Inc. has somebody in that building that is receiving mail for them, maybe in an office of an investor, etc. that doesn't have an Amiga, Inc. name on it. But this doesn't account for the suite number listed on the AI web site apparently being occupied by a company with no connection. The address should be correct on the web site. I hope somebody at AI is paying attention and making the correction, if it's needed. If Amiga, Inc. stands by that address as the correct one, then it really would be great if somebody would verify it in person.

-- gary_c

[Elwood]

@JoannaK

I have no intention to do anything Amigainc/de related until they have got their act straight.

If you want to work on something more concrete, work for AmigaOS4. :-)

[cecilia]

In the IRC session, didn't Garry Hare say something about how long it took for the AmigaOnes to be delivered after being ordered? I wonder if this address confusion had something to do with that.

there you go talking out your {Ashcroft} again.
The reason for the delay in delivery had nothing to do with amiga inc or garry hare. it was all on the other end and I'm not going into details because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
You love to speculate and throw mud at anyone. it's so easy to do when you are sitting in japan and are completely clueless.

I'm willing to go to the manhatten address and actually get facts. and when I come back with pictures i'll post them with the exact time I took them.

[kgrach]

I know the brainless dealer who sold the Amigaone systems to KMOS.
He shipped the systems out sometime in late February. The delay was the result of incompetence on the dealers part not address malfunction.
So if they moved USPS mail forwarding would still be in effect.
Even if they didn't forward the mail because it was registered there would still be a sticker on it from the post office with the NEW address.

Also in New York State you don't send legal letters or notices to the company directly. All legal correspondence gets sent to the  New York  Department  of State . They will deliver the notices for you to the legal representative of the company. Failure to keep a valid contact address and phone number on file with the DOS will result in an automatic judgment against the company.
Sounds like somebody who does not live in the US because they would know that.
Like I said I don't think the person on ANN.LU is who he says's he is.  

So I stick with my original post of this thread is FUD                            

Kgrach

Sounds like somebody who does not live in the US because they would know that.

If someone from say Arkansas had laws in their state that were different, how would they automatically know NY wasn't the same?

I live in England, I haven't got a clue about half the weird laws they have up in Scotland.  Most laws are the same, many aren't.

[gary_c]

cecilia wrote:

there you go talking out your {Ashcroft} again.

I wonder why you always have an insult ready for me, cecilia. I try to be as civil as I can when I post. As I hope you noticed, I phrased my thought as a question, not as some theory I was trying to push at all costs. If there was some other reason for the delay, fine. That answers my question. Really, no need for the rudeness.

You love to speculate and throw mud at anyone.

Not at all. I do speculate, yes, because it's rare that all the information about one thing or another is laid out for us to see in its entirety, and speculation is a way of trying to put the pieces together. Speculation in itself is not a bad thing, as any scientist, investigator or journalist will affirm.

But I don't "love to throw mud at anyone". That's ridiculous, and if you feel this way, then I have to think that maybe you don't read my posts very carefully, or you read them with your opinion about me already set. I say what's on my mind, but I try to make it a point to respond to arguments and ideas, not to insult or belittle people. I guess I got on your bad side by being on the other side in some issues regarding a certain company and some individuals. But I realize your mind is firmly made up about me, so I won't waste your time trying to convince you of how I really am.

I'm willing to go to the manhatten address and actually get facts. and when I come back with pictures i'll post them with the exact time I took them.

That's terrific. As a guy who travels in and around around Tokyo every day, I know it can be a real expedition sometimes to get somewhere in a big city. I appreciate your effort, as I know a lot of others do.

-- gary_c

[gary_c]

The delay was the result of incompetence on the dealers part not address malfunction.  So if they moved USPS mail forwarding would still be in effect.

OK, I was just wondering, since Garry Hare didn't say specifically why there was a delay. Of course the forwarding would only work in a situation where Amiga, Inc. had been at that location and then moved, leaving a forwarding address.

Even if they didn't forward the mail because it was registered there would still be a sticker on it from the post office with the NEW address.

Assuming the post address had a new address for them. And if Amiga, Inc. notified the post office of a new address, why wouldn't they update the address on their own web site as well?

Sounds like somebody who does not live in the US because they would know that.

As mentioned, most people in the US would not know that. I'm from Oregon and lived and ran a business in Hawaii for a long time and never had reason to send "legal letters" to anyone in New York, so this is news to me. Bolton Peck is in Washington state, so unless he had some earlier experience doing something similar, I doubt if he'd be aware of it, either.

Like I said I don't think the person on ANN.LU is who he says's he is.

Whether you want to believe it or not, he is in fact who he says he is (post explaining his situation). But let's wait for Cecilia to see if there's any sign of Amiga, Inc. at that address.

-- gary_c

[Trev]

@kgrach

I don't live in New York, but I thought the Attorney General could only be served process for certain types of businesses--foreign entities doing business in New York, limited liability corporations (like your own), etc. The other types are supposed to have a process address on file.

Oh. And a totally off-topic plug for Kurt's business. I just installed my RAKA1200. Awesome litte piece of hardware. But I think I would have added a horizontally mounted header for the connector instead of soldering the cable directly to the board; otherwise, it totally kicks ass. :-)

Trev

[dammy]

by kgrach on 2005/4/3 18:58:08

Sounds like somebody who does not live in the US because they would know that.

Thanks for demonstrating why most folks do not like NYers, sheer arrogance and elitist attitudes.  Just because NY does something rather oddball does not mean the rest of the great unwashed states follow in NY's foot steps and keep up on NY's odd ball rules and regulations.  Second, I kinda doubt NYDOS would give a rat's ass since this happened and judgement against Amiga Inc happened prior to KMOS purchasing Amiga Inc and at the time Amiga Inc was not a NY corp.

Dammy

[utri007]

I seems that KMOS bought amiga inc busines, not a company.

So because KMOS have changed it name to amiga, it seems that "old amiga inc" doesnt exist anymore?

This is how I've undestand situation, because GH said about party pack and t-shirts that they don't have leagal reasons to do anything to those things, but they have moral reason to fullfill "old amiga inc" promises

simly I have two point here

1 buy a company, buyer get whole thing depts, products,, etc
2 buy a busines, buyer get busines products etc but not depts, personels, etc

[Seehund]

kgrach wrote:

So I stick with my original post of this thread is FUD                            

I think it's Exciting to discover all these new and unique definitions of "FUD", and the Amigoid community seems to be particularly creative.

You're still beaten by a post I saw on ANN the other day, when someone called a potentially positive announcement from one company about that company's own products "FUD".

[Trev]

Well, here you go (from New York Department of State, updated weekly):

Selected Entity Name:  KMOS, INC.

Current Entity Name:  KMOS, INC.
Initial DOS Filing Date:  OCTOBER 10, 2003
County:  NEW YORK
Jurisdiction:  DELAWARE
Entity Type:  FOREIGN BUSINESS CORPORATION
Current Entity Status:  ACTIVE

DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
KMOS, INC.
17 DEER TRACK LANE
GOLDENS BRIDGE, NEW YORK 10526

Registered Agent
JONATHAN WARNER
WARNER & SCHEURMAN
6 WEST 18TH ST. 10TH FLR.
NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10011

Hi guys,

I've sat here pretty much for two weeks watching this, and I must say that it's turned out much more adult than I expected.  I'd like to bring up one point, in that it's all moot.

Amiga/KMOS/whatever they are this week, obviously do not feel the need to operate in any fashion with regards to us, the Amiga community.  We are not their market, nor their demographic.  Nothing we say, nor any conspiracy theories we add will make any difference whatsoever and nothing we do will change their minds. They obviously do not feel they owe any of the employees they screwed a dime.  I know all about how that works, so trust me.  Neither Matt nor Bolton are ever going to see a dime, just like I won't see any of the $10,000+ that is legally owed to me.

Amiga Inc, just like Genesi, has proven themselves to be masters of the shell game, whether that involves hiding their money or their address is irrelevant.  What makes me wonder is why anyone feels either of these two companies is relevant any more?  

If you want an Amiga, you're stuck with the Eyetech/Hyperion solution.  Amiga Inc is not involved.  The fact that they were incorporated in New York as a "Foreign company" makes me wonder if that's not just another way of confirming that they're not in control anyway.

IMNSHO, the AA (DE) idea is now stillborn and the PPC platform is a dead-end.  Make your choice.  I'll be over at whyzzat.com if you need me, having fun talking politics without all the Amiga drama interfering.

Wayne

[Trev]

I think I'd just like to see m68k Amiga OS opened up, if not in source (and not GNU, if it did happen), then at least with publicly available hardware and software information (or what's left of it, anyway). It's where all the fun is, in my opnion.

But Wayne has a point. KMOS/Amiga will most likely maintain their relationship with Hyperion and Eyetech for as long as it's legally necessary. After that, they'll go on trying to compete with Java and .NET, and yes, they'll probably fail.

And Wayne, dude, way to plug that forum. ;-)

Trev

[cecilia]

boing wrote:
I think it's cool that Cecelia will check that address for us.

you're welcome.
Pic for outside is there and the info on the third floor showing what or who is in Room 301.

I wrote down under each picture what happened. I think I just left out that when I used the name "John Gizymala" (which I believe is the name connected for the web site, not sure here), it was recognized. However, the other woman who was also making a delivery had a whole stack of names. And I can't ssay I recognized any of them. (and I didn't memorize them because my name is NOT James Bond).:-P

Anyway, all you sluths can now look up "Bandwidth Technology" to see if and how they are related to Amiga Inc/ formerly KMOS.

Just so you have an idea of the layout, room 301 seems to have 2 doors. One door has the number on it, the other door (at a 90 degree angle) has nothing but a mail slot. No info on either doors except the number.  

Trev wrote:
And Wayne, dude, way to plug that forum. ;-)

:roflmao: