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Dumb question on RAM expansion
« on: March 15, 2005, 12:47:50 AM »
Hi there. I'm sitting here looking at an RAS-512K ram expansion card.
There is something bothering me. It's just got the RAM, a clockchip, and some passive components. What's stopping it from being mirrored through the entire memory range? Is it Gary doing this?
A500 (salvo): 1Mb RAM (512k chip, 512k SlowFast)
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Re: Dumb question on RAM expansion
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 03:29:44 AM »
This is a weak answer, because I haven't looked and A500 schematics in ages, but it's the way it's hard-wired to the address buss and gary if I remember any of it well enough. No logic needed if it's wired to the buss properly.

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Re: Dumb question on RAM expansion
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 04:26:26 AM »
So is Gary only good for 1mb?....
Let me see. Well, I know Agnus is lazy and only supports 512k of chip...
Just going to have a look at the schematics to see if that offers a hint.

Thanks for that though.

I was just asking because I know the cpu is good for 16mb, but I just wanted to doctor the ram expansion (it has a dead RAM) and put 1mb on it, but I'm not sure if its possible is all.
A500 (salvo): 1Mb RAM (512k chip, 512k SlowFast)
1x880k Floppy Disk, 1xIBM 540Mb 3.5\\"HDD KS1.3, WB1.3
1084S monitor. AT Keyboard!
A500 (Whitey): 512k RAM, 1x880k Floppy Disk, KS1.2, WB1.3
 

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Re: Dumb question on RAM expansion
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2005, 09:09:10 AM »
Hi,

if I remember right, the ram-expansions for the trapdoor-slot of the A500 that have more than 512KB have an Gary-adapter that wires a single line to a pin of Gary.
The Agnus supports 2MB of RAM (all of them ?), but the early ones support only 512 KB chip-ram and 1.5 MB slow-ram (CPU-only fast-mem, but refreshed by the slow Agnus so this kind of ram has no speed improvement to chip-ram).

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Re: Dumb question on RAM expansion
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2005, 11:54:18 AM »
I recall there was a pad on the PCB you could solder. Sort of like a jumer. This mapped the 512k slowram to chipram. But I never thought the OCS chipset could address more than 1MB of chipram. The ECS (A500+) can do 2MB.
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Re: Dumb question on RAM expansion
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2005, 12:10:26 PM »
Hi,

> But I never thought the OCS chipset could address more than 1MB of chipram.

Not Chip ram, 512 kB Chip ram and 1,5 MB slow mem. The old A2000's have 512 MB Chip and an additional RAM card in the MMU-slot with 0.5 upto 1.5 MB of slow mem. This memory is also refreshed by Agnus, even in the oldest A2000's.

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Re: Dumb question on RAM expansion
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2005, 01:14:44 PM »
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