Prometheus guru assistance needed

[Plaz]

I'm in need of assistance getting my new prometheus to install properly.
I have an A4000/040 with 3.1OS, I've installed the prometheus software,
the prometheus 2.5 update and picasso96. I'm using an S3Virge video card.
When I run findcard util, it finds and identifies my Virge card and the
RTL8139 ethernet card I have installed. My first biggest problem is
Picasso96mode does not see the prometheus card when I try "Attach setting to"
I've been to the home page of picasso96 for troubleshooting tips and followed
their examples. First I've used the automatic scripts for picasso96 and
prometheus, then went back manually checking files, paths settings and libs.
I'm kind of stuck now looking for the next step. Following the troubleshooting
tips I've captured the output from snoopdos for clues to the problem.
I can see the drivers and libs were succesful, but several of the card options
have failed. I wouldn't beleive those would crash me, but then that's why
I'm looking for help. I'm eager to work with openpci also, but I need to
get past the basic install first. Thanks for any help and here is the
snoopdos output.


Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                 Options Res.
----- ------------       ------     -----------                 ------- ----
1     Prometheus         ChangeDir  Workbench:Devs/Monitors                
2     Prometheus         OpenLib    icon.library                Ver 37  OK  
3     Prometheus         OpenLib    picasso96/rtg.library       Ver 40  OK  
4     Prometheus         ToolType   QUIET                               Fail
5     Prometheus         ToolType   BOARDTYPE                           OK  
6     Prometheus         ToolType   SETTINGSFILE                        OK  
7     Prometheus         ToolType   MEMORYCLOCK                         Fail
8     Prometheus         ToolType   SOFTSPRITE                          Fail
9     Prometheus         ToolType   BIGSPRITE                           Fail
10    Prometheus         ToolType   BORDERBLANK                         Fail
11    Prometheus         ToolType   DISPLAYCHAIN                        Fail
12    Prometheus         ToolType   IGNOREMASK                          OK  
13    Prometheus         ToolType   NOPLANAR2CHUNKYBLITS                Fail
14    Prometheus         ToolType   NOBLITTER                           Fail
15    Prometheus         ToolType   SYSTEM2SCREENBLITS                  Fail
16    Prometheus         ToolType   QUIET                               Fail
17    Prometheus         ToolType   OVERCLOCK                           Fail
18    Prometheus         ToolType   GRANTDIRECTACCESS                   Fail
19    Prometheus         ToolType   FAKENATIVEMODES                     Fail
20    Prometheus         Load       LIBS:picasso96/Prometheus.c         OK  
21    Prometheus         OpenLib    prometheus.library          Ver 1   OK  
22    Prometheus         OpenLib    expansion.library           Ver 0   OK  
23    Prometheus         OpenLib    Prometheus.card             Ver 0   OK  


Plaz

[Trooper]

Have you tried to disable the tooltypes in the icons information of any of the items that fail in the output from snoopdos ?.

Left click the icon to select it, Then right click and hold and go to the icon menu and select infomation.

I could be completely wrong as this may have nothing to do with it what so ever. But it could be worth a try, Judging by the out put from snoopdos.

Trooper

[zipper]

Plaz wrote:

Picasso96mode does not see the prometheus card when I try "Attach setting to"
Plaz

What is the exact answer - is it "no board" ?

[Plaz]

@Trooper

I thought about it, but haven't tried it yet.
I was waiting to see what info I get before I start
making more changes. If all else fails I'll be disabling tool types.

Plaz

[Plaz]

@zipper

Correct, the only choice is "no board"

Plaz

[redrumloa]

@Plaz

What type of Virge card is it?

[zipper]

Check if you have all the files needed and available here:


http://www.matay.pl/developer/en/index.html



zipper, Voodoo3/Voodoo4 owner - 3 beats 4

[Plaz]

@red

S3VirgeDX, but I can't see the prometheus card in picasso96mode. Odd thing is I could see it originally before the 3.1 install, so I'm betting I have a missing file or bad config some where now.

Plaz

[Robert17]

I have the same problem as you, but I have an EC030 processor, so I was thinking maybe it's the lack of MMU, and the same setup worked when I had a Cyberstorm 060.

Robert

[Plaz]

@Robert17

Thanks for that clue. Maybe I need to be taking a close look at the 68xxx.library and other lib files. Maybe I need a different version than the one included with the stock 3.1

Plaz

[redrumloa]

@Plaz

I doubt it has to do with the CPU. Something in the install is botched:-/ Are you sure there is the virge.chip in libs/prometheus?

[zipper]

The latest S3Virge.chip on Matay site is  v7.516 (19.03.03.) Is that the same as delivered with Prometheus?

[Plaz]

Any one have any experience with openpci?
At this point I think I'd like to just reformat
the drive and start over. But I would like to
back up my data first, and 50-100 floppies
would be horrid. I have a RTL8139 nic but it
would require openpci. I think Red still has
some 8029 nics for sale, but I don't want to buy
a palet of 40 :-) So if I can get prometheus to
talk to my nic and miami/tcp, I can back up to
another hd and system.

Plaz

[redrumloa]

Any one have any experience with openpci?

Yes, forget about it and stable RTL8139 support for now. The author just released new versions which improves stability which is promising, but AFAIK it's still not ready for prime time. I'd definately reccomend RTL8029AS as it's rock hard stable under Miami.

Formatting the HD and starting over from scratch would probably be a good idea.

I think Red still has
some 8029 nics for sale, but I don't want to buy
a palet of 40

 :lol:
Actually I'm finished selling lots of 40+, i actually only have about ~30 individual cards left for sale.
HERE. If you want one use checkout and pay standard shipping, I'll upgrade the shipping to Priority Mail so you get it quicker.

[Plaz]

Well, while I wait on my 8029 nic to arrive, I continue to mess with the prometheus with some success. If I move the card to any slot other than the one next to the video slot, picasso96mode can't see it. If I move it next to the video slot, it appears in picasso96mode when I go to "attach to". But doing so has no effect. The "modes" section of picasso96mode all ways has all of the config setting greyed out and picasso96mode always tells me ALL of the possible video modes are unsupported and would I like to diable or delete the choices. I figure this has to be some thing to do with the way picasso recognises prometheus or the way I need to set up the files for my S3virge card. Exactly how do I use the .chip files? I can't find any documentation on these. And I still want to mess  with openpci if someone can help me figure out how to fire it up. I have all the files in place, now what? I know it's supposed to be buggy, but even if I get the amiga to crash while using it, that would be progress. Right now the ami almost acts as if the prometheus doesn't exsist. The prominfo util shows my pci cards so I know that's not entirely true.

Plaz