Best Amiga Today???

[amigadave]

Stirred up much more than I intended.  I have many Amigas (most would say too many as I have never gotten rid of any I have bought for myself or for other family members who have given them back over the years).  I have very fond memories of my first, the A1000.  I have not been using my Amigas lately but I am just finishing an office room addition to my home which will give me room to set up an Amiga or two and I would like to know what is the "State of the Art" for Amigas now.  I have an A4000 in a tower w/Phase 5 PPC at 233/060 at 60, Cybervision, Video Toaster/Flyer that I would like to bring up to its highest potential state, while keeping functionality of the Toaster/Flyer.  I want to add USB to allow use of my digital camera's USB card reader.  I want to network it with my Powerbook and my very ancient 400mHz PC.  The PC will eventually be delegated to being nothing more than a Linux Firewall I think.  A donated 2nd A1000 is awaiting a mini shuttle style PC MoBo transplant and Amiga Forever install, but my original A1000 will remain stock.  Too many good memories there to ever change or give up.

[drHirudo]

The classic would be AOS 3.x runing under WinUAE. One could say that XP is more of a classic then.

You can say XP with WinUAE is a classic Amiga as much as Mac running VirtualPC is an IBM-PC compatible, or XP running PearPC is a Mac, or or....

[NicoPPC]

@Piru

Nevertheless, The MPC 7447 has a little issue compared to the G3:
power.

The MPC7447 disspate much more heat than the G3 (750CXe or GX), then
it needs a fan (or a bigger heatsink)
However, I would be particualry interrested in a MPC7447 1Ghz ->
800Mhz (to remove the fan), or in a newer CPU (MPC7447A, 7447?) at
1Ghz fanless.

We will at least agree that the MPC7447/1Ghz beats the 750CXe/600.

Bye

[graffias79]

amigadave wrote:
Stirred up much more than I intended.

Kinda like seeing clear-looking water in a rusty metal barrel, pouring more water in, then all the settled sediments and crap suddenly cloud the water with chaos.  I get so angry anymore having watched people make posts about some newer generation amiga system then suddenly the battle wages on.  WHY? Who gives a RAT's A$$ what other people think anyway? I certainly never have, thats why I got an Amiga in the first place.  I liked it, not because anyone else did, but because I did.  Just stick with the things that you like and shut up if you don't like something that someone else does.  It's gone way beyond rediculous.

[HotRod]

And that statement got nothing to do what so ever with what I wrote.

AOS 3.9 is older than AOS 4 and XP is older than AOS 4.

Did you get it now?

[Fransexy_]

drHirudo wrote:

The classic would be AOS 3.x runing under WinUAE. One could say that XP is more of a classic then.

You can say XP with WinUAE is a classic Amiga as much as Mac running VirtualPC is an IBM-PC compatible, or XP running PearPC is a Mac, or or....

And amiga with 060 66 mhz running shapeshifter is the fastest Classic Mac of the world  :lol:

[ikir]

redrumloa wrote:
@HotRod

I don't think anyone put down OS4 here

Yeah "sure". As always :-)

Software compatability(overall - ie bulk % of compatability)
1)WinUAE
2)Real Amiga(3000/4000)
3)Peggy/MorphOS
4)A1/OS4

A1/OS4 has e-UAE as well. for what i do i can run all the old software i need on OS4 even with the prerelease. Anyway better to have PPC new software.
Both MOS and OS4 has a good number of little and new PPC softwares considering their young age.

[woof]

PegasosII with G4(altivec) are rare but are certainly
the faster 68k accelerators (with the Trance 68k JIT)
I have tested my own Warp3D&68k program both on a 4040/CV64-3D and on the PegII/Radeon = it runs 20-30X faster on the PegII
So for OS-apps in 68k certainly PegasosII is the faster Amiga ever :-) (G4 Amigaones dont have JIT  :-/)

Alain

[redrumloa]

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redrumloa wrote:
@HotRod

I don't think anyone put down OS4 here

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Yeah "sure". As always :-)
 

Not sure you what you mean by that :-? I've always had an interest in OS4. The A1 hardware, well that's another story. I was a one time A1SE preorder customer, for about 1 year actually. I canceled my preorder after a year and looking at history, I'm glad I did. Let's fast forward to present day. I was until a couple months ago looking forward to the promised OS4 for CSPPC, finally given up on that. I'm still keeping an eye on OS4, but at this point it doesn't run on anything I'd even close to consider buying. Even thought of me buying a $1000+ motherboard from Eyetech is waaay out of the question.

Hyperion has hinted at the possibility of ports to other hardware. I wonder what and when that might be, WHEN being the biggest factor. Especially with the untimely death of MOS, it would be nice to see AOS run on reasonably priced and reasonably speced/working hardware.

[ikir]

@redrumload
A Micro is minitx and cheaper than an XE. A good & cute hardware.

@woof
OS4 HAS JIT. Not the prerelease beta.

[AmiBools]

@ikir

MicoAOne: the best of all it's bug free :-D, unlike AmigaOneXE/SE :-(

[PR]

The best compablitiy for the old and great demos(Sanity Art etc.) & games is achieved by an A500 with extra 512Kb and DD both with a switcher. (ON/OFF) Costs few euros today!

Then for the next software an AGA machine, mine used to be A4000 but changed to A1200 as it is really quite the same with cheaper expansions.

With a '060 You get a few incompabilities but it's more worth it than Your "When It's Done-Sign"

After the Picasso IV I have to use two monitors, dont know why? I have an old NEC-multisync for everything and from the old A1200 output an PhilipsCM- standard Amiga monitor as my C1084S used to be. Have to see for example the Early Startup Menu for this. Not Bothering me anyway..

The A1 is fast and the best! Don't really get this if You need a lot of old sofware but who cares? Works for me and never going to go back (but the A500 for retro).

Emulation is never been a consideration because I am an true Amigan and not this "pc-emu" - guys!

I know that I'm going to get some of the last comments, please excuseme of my bad english!
 
See You!
 

[T_Bone]

Amithlon

Faster than f^^^, an upgrade path to native x86, faster than f^^^, fastest 68k emulation to date, faster than f^^^, uses linux drivers, faster than f^^^.

Oh, and it's faster than f^^^.

[AmiBools]

best Amiga is a real Amiga,

the Amiga500 to 4000 is the best amigas for classic games,
and for Scala type of usage

--
MicroAmigaOne is the best for media software, Office (AmigaWriter), home entertainment,
faster for games, movies, and can even emulate Play-Station, for emulation of game consoles,
surfing the network, and every thing else.

E-UAE fills up the void of not being able to run hardware banging programs,
like HippoPlayer, Octamed and games,

Software is growing on the platform unlike the classic Amiga system.
It boots extremely fast unlike any emulator,
--

WInUAE the most compatible Amiga Option for classic Amiga System,
run any software for any kickstart or hardware up to Amiga4000,
whit the limiton of not being able to run PPC software, WinUAE
is as good as real Amiga for game play, copper effects kills the performance,
and AGA games eats CPU.

[Framiga]

by redrumloa on 2005/2/4 17:56:15

>Real Amiga (w/add-ons & extras, but must start w/Amiga MoBo)

Amiga 4000

>Emulated/Imitated Amiga (list emulator or clone OS and hardware)

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

>Most compatible with all existing software (will run most programs)

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

>Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

>The Ultimate Amiga (which of the above is best)

This won't make many people happy, but at the present time:

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

@ moderator/admin

you have removed MY post . . .  and the quoted above?!?!

i have NO words :-(

[redrumloa]

Framiga wrote:
you have removed MY post . . .  and the quoted above?!?!

i have NO words :-(

Actually reread the thread from the begining, you will see there has been a thorough cleansing including my posts.

Edited by Admin: Repsonding to Personal Attack, Personal Attack

It probably needed to be done. One person started a flamewar and it got responded to. I don't mind being edited as long as it's thorough, and it seems to be fair and evenhanded(except for missing a couple of the quoted attacks against me).

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You know what's the sad part though? This (name omitted) person shoots himself in the foot. I am a registered owner of multiple of this (name omitted) products and even had contacted his (name omitted) company about being a dealer for his (name omitted) operating system. I have far more association with his (name omitted) company than the other (name omitted) company. :lol: