Best Amiga Today???

[amigadave]

I know this question has probably been asked more than once before, but what is the best Amiga available today (includes used hardware) in the following categories?

Real Amiga (w/add-ons & extras, but must start w/Amiga MoBo)
Emulated/Imitated Amiga (list emulator or clone OS and hardware)
Most compatible with all existing software (will run most programs)
Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)
The Ultimate Amiga (which of the above is best)

[redrumloa]

>Real Amiga (w/add-ons & extras, but must start w/Amiga MoBo)

Amiga 4000

>Emulated/Imitated Amiga (list emulator or clone OS and hardware)

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

>Most compatible with all existing software (will run most programs)

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

>Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

>The Ultimate Amiga (which of the above is best)

This won't make many people happy, but at the present time:

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

[HyperionMP]

>Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)

Definitely an AmigaOne.

Native PPC operating system, with tons of more features that the old 3.9 operating system.

AmigaForever is nothing more than a glorified emulator for nostalgiacs. It does a good job at that but to call it the "Ultimate Amiga" is ridiculous.



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[melott]

I've owned just about all the models except the A4000
and an A-One.
I've tried WinUAE... didn't really care for it.
My A3000 w/WarpEngine,CV64,etc, is the machine.
Its the machine I would choose.

[Lando]

Real Amiga (w/add-ons & extras, but must start w/Amiga MoBo)

A4000 + CSPPC 604e-233Mhz / 060-66Mhz / UWSCSI, PCI busboard (Mediator, G-Rex or Prometheus), Voodoo 3 graphics card, DKB3128 RAM board, Video Toaster 4000, and whatever else you can cram in there.

Emulated/Imitated Amiga (list emulator or clone OS and hardware)

Toss-up between Pegasos II + MorphOS and WinUAE.  

Pegasos II G4 beats an Athlon 2800+ overall according to the AmiGOD benchmarks page and has the added benefit of running WarpOS and PowerUP applications and a number of OS4 applications (via OS4Emu) which the PC won't so I'd have to go with that.

Most compatible with all existing software (will run most programs)

A500 1.3 or PC with WinUAE.

Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)

A 3Ghz+ PC with Amithlon or UAE.

The Ultimate Amiga (which of the above is best)

Depends what you want to do with it.
Best bang-for-buck has to be the PC with WinUAE.

[Wilse]

> Definitely an AmigaOne.

Sorry Ben but that is entirely dependant on what you want to do.

Take me for example.
Audio is my thing. You try running HD-Rec on the current incarnation of OS4 and see how much fun it is.
Sure, once JIT is integrated, this should be sorted but right now, my 600mHz, G3 Pegasos pishes all over my 800mHz, G4 A1.

Don't get me wrong, I actually prefer using the A1 to the Peg for most things but to make a sweeping statement like you did is a tad ignorant, IMO.

>No offense Redrumloa but it's your past affiliation with BBRV left his mark.


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[cdfr]

>Most compatible with all existing software (will run most programs)

AmigaForever(WinUAE)

I do not think so. For example WinUAE will not run any software that make use of Amiga Zorro cards such as Movieshop.
What can UAE can do that a real Amiga can not do ?

As for speed it would definitaly be a peg2 G4 (fast JIT + native OS and software). However some 68k software may run faster emulated on an extremely fast PC.

[Fransexy_]

Lando wrote:

Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)

A 3Ghz+ PC with Amithlon or UAE.

I doubt a lot that a 3 GHZ pc running emulated 68k apps is faster than amigaone running native PPC apps  :lol:

[amigamad]

Win uae is very fast on my pc my a1 is slower if anything, winuae is hell of a lot cheaper as well, disk acess is much faster than an a1 xe besides this is a dyeing platform and as such can you justify the cost of an a1 compared to a pc if i had the money now i would not have spent what i make to be nearer a 1000 pound on on  putting an a1 together my pc is now 2 to 3 years old and still faster than any a1.

[amigean]

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[NicoPPC]

Real Amiga (w/add-ons & extras, but must start w/Amiga MoBo)

I would say the "cutest" one would be:
* A1200 Desktop
* Blizzard PPC 603e 240 + SCSI + 128 Mb (or more)
* BlizzardVision
* Subway USB
* PCMCIA ethernet adaptor
* External SCSI HD & CDRW
* MorphOS

Emulated/Imitated Amiga (list emulator or clone OS and hardware)

for classic Amiga game: WinUAE, or UAE on fast machine
for "Workbench use": Pegasos + MorphOS

Most compatible with all existing software (will run most programs)

Classic game: A500 + ROM 1.3 :-)
Other use prolly: A1200/4000 + 030/040 + CGX card + scan doubler

Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)

with PPC application: Pegasos II G4
for 68k only software: WinUAE on fast x86 may be faster.

The Ultimate Amiga (which of the above is best)

Classic game: A500
Normal use: Pegasos II G4 with replaced fan :-)

@hyperionmp:

>Fastest Amiga (Emulated or Accellerated?)

Definitely an AmigaOne.

Tss, Pegasos II G4 get smarter CPU (MPC7447 running at 1Ghz), DDR ->
faster :-P

Bye

[ikir]

Fastest Amiga -> AmigaOne XE G4 1000 (mine :-P)
Cheaper -> WinUAE
Better -> MicroA1

[Fransexy_]

amigamad wrote:
Win uae is very fast on my pc my a1 is slower if anything, winuae is hell of a lot cheaper as well, disk acess is much faster than an a1 xe besides this is a dyeing platform and as such can you justify the cost of an a1 compared to a pc if i had the money now i would not have spent what i make to be nearer a 1000 pound on on  putting an a1 together my pc is now 2 to 3 years old and still faster than any a1.

well on my 500 mhz laptop lastest winuae report with a good benchmark program that is 040 running in the range of 30 mhz (it varies betwen 28 and 40).my laptop 500 mhz is sloooow in comparision with my a1200 060, i only notice that is a faster machine when i can play divx on pc and not can in the amiga but the a1200 is faaaaaaaaasssssssssteeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr in day to day usage not to mention that windows crash constantly.so i doubt that A1 is slow than your pc, if amigaos4 is as fast as in the videos i see then i not seen a pc as fast (i´m played with pc´s up to 1.5 ghz).
AND a question: not is more faster mac dual G5 running e-uae than winuae on 3ghz pc? :-D

[Piru]

@Fransexy_

not to mention that windows crash constantly

Get the machine fixed, Windows doesn't crash constantly when run on working HW. It does crash sometimes (and certainly more often than bsd or linux), though.

a question: not is more faster mac dual G5 running e-uae than winuae on 3ghz pc?

WinUAE on 3GHz PC is tens of times faster than e-uae on dual G5 system.

a) uae uses only single CPU of the dual system
b) ppc uae has no JIT

[TheMagicM]

None of the two PPC computers out are "Amiga" computers.   One just has the badging slapped on.  

I agree with the A4k being the top Amiga...and for the rest, UAE works perfect.