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Running Multiple OS In PowerPC
« on: February 04, 2005, 12:26:16 PM »
Hi
On PC / X86 side, there are "Virtual Machines" program that run multiple OS at the same time: VMWare, Virtuozzo, VirtualPC, Xen, Intel Vanderpool etc.
You can run Linux, Windows, BSD together at the same time in a single PC.

Is there any similar program on PowerPC?
Is there any hardware support from Freescale or IBM?

Example: You can run AmigaOS 4 together with Linux PPC at the same time on AmigaOne.

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Re: Running Multiple OS In PowerPC
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2005, 12:41:13 PM »
well, with mac on linux (MOL) you can run linux and macos at the same time.but you cannot run amigaos4 at the same time with other operating sysmtem, you can in wathever case
have multiple os boots in amigaone (linux, macos, amigaos4)
Will be good thing tnat somebody make something like MOL for OS4:Maconamiga or linuxonamiga with this you will run amiga, linux and mac at the same time

I am very interesting if there are any form of make Beos PPC
boot on amigaone
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Re: Running Multiple OS In PowerPC
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2005, 01:15:51 PM »
Hi
The new Linux 2.6.11 Kernel will include Xen Virtual Machine program. Is it possible to port this application to PowerPC?
What about running Linux UAE (Amiga Emulator) and Wine (Windows Emulator) on AmigaOne?

What about Infiniband support on PowerPC and AmigaOne?
Using Infiniband (12 Gbps), it is possible to create high speed cluster with up to 480 GBps Switching router.

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A forthcoming update to the Linux 2.6 kernel will incorporate the Xen open source virtualization technology, said the man who maintains the Linux kernel.
At the Enterprise Linux Summit, Andrew Morton -- Linus Torvalds' right-hand man and maintainer of the Linux kernel for the Open Source Development Labs (ODSL) -- said he will incorporate the Xen virtualization code "in the near future. "
He would not say if the virtualization code will be rolled into the Linux 2.6.11 update. Available in February, that update will support Infiniband.
"I came this close to merging Xen [into the Linux kernel] a couple of months ago, but we decided it was not the way to do it," said Morton, noting that the Xen developers need to polish the code. "It'll go in four weeks after we get it."
An open-source project out of University of Cambridge in England, Xen has growing ties with Red Hat, Novell and Hewlett-Packard and has emerged as the leading contender for providing open-source virtualization for the Linux environment.
Morton said there is significant demand for the capabilities enabled by virtualization, including server consolidation and workload management. Virtualization enables customers to run multiple virtual machines -- and thus multiple operating systems and applications -- on a single server.
The fast-growing software category was pioneered by VMWare, which provides its flagship ESX virtualization server software on Linux and Windows. VMWare -- as well as competitors SWSoft and newcomer Virtual Iron -- are expected to launch enhanced version of their products for the Linux environment in two weeks' time at LinuxWorld Expo.
Torvalds and Morton, the top two managers of the Linux kernel who work for the OSDL, now plan to release interim updates, with new features and patches, every two months. That's a marked difference from past practice. "The traditional model of Linux kernel development in the past 10 years is we make available an unstable kernel, then a stable kernel," every two- or three-year period, said Morton.
Neither Torvalds or Morton would specify the core features for the next update, but Morton did say a future build will include an NFS 4 updated file system, clustering file support and Infiniband. Torvalds said the OSDL plans to include improved support for laptops and 3-D graphics by getting more hardware vendors to develop USB drivers and other drivers for Linux
 

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Re: Running Multiple OS In PowerPC
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2005, 03:16:56 PM »
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asian1 wrote:
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The new Linux 2.6.11 Kernel will include Xen Virtual Machine program. Is it possible to port this application to PowerPC?


"Xen currently runs only on the x86 architecture, [...] We hope to add other architectures such as PPC and ARM in due course."

As for the Terons, there seems to be difficulties with getting Linux 2.6 running (reliably?) at all on those.


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What about running Linux UAE (Amiga Emulator)


Doesn't that already run on Terons?

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and Wine (Windows Emulator) on AmigaOne?


WINE Is Not an Emulator. It "only" provides Windows APIs/ABIs on x86 hardware to run Windows apps in eg. Linux.

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What about Infiniband support on PowerPC and AmigaOne?
Using Infiniband (12 Gbps), it is possible to create high speed cluster with up to 480 GBps Switching router.


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Re: Running Multiple OS In PowerPC
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2005, 12:44:41 PM »
Hi
The new dual core CPU from Motorola can run 2 different OS on the 2 cores.
Is this the same technology as Intel's Vanderpool?
If the future Amiga machine use this CPU, is it possible to run Linux PPC + Amiga OS 4 at the same time on this CPU?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/28/freescale_g4_7448/

"Cunningly, the 8641D can not only appear to the host OS as two processors, but is capable of running a separate operating systems on each core."
 

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Re: Running Multiple OS In PowerPC
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2005, 04:35:50 PM »
You can get the Linux version of EUAE from here.

As for Linux 2.6 there is supposedly a working version at MAI logic but the problem on some of the MicroA1s is that the PPC750GX seems to have some sort of unknown issues.  It works fine on the PPC750FX, however.
 

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Re: Running Multiple OS In PowerPC
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2005, 04:45:51 PM »
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As for the Terons, there seems to be difficulties with getting Linux 2.6 running (reliably?) at all on those.


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