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Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« on: February 04, 2005, 12:35:42 AM »
Hi all

I have just setup apache on my pc, i now want to try to set up a mail server, anyone know of any that fit the title discription?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2005, 12:57:23 AM »
Running a mail server involves setting up MX records for the nameserver and stuff (so mail won't get lost during the server downtime).

Are you sure you really want to run a mail server? Why?

And why run all this on XP? Personally I wouldn't recommend running services on single user OS like Windows XP.
 

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2005, 01:08:54 AM »
Considering how cheap you can pick up an older 2nd hand PC these days, I would consider doing that and then heading over to ClarkConnect. Just a thought.
 

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2005, 09:17:15 AM »
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2005, 09:22:11 AM »
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And why run all this on XP? Personally I wouldn't recommend running services on single user OS like Windows XP.

XP isn't a single user OS.

But I wouldn't recommend running server-stuff on a machine you use as a workstation.  Added security risk and all that.
 

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2005, 04:49:16 PM »
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XP isn't a single user OS.

Try to log in remotely (RDesktop) -> the current desktop user need to log out. I call that singleuser.

(Ok, you can workaround that particular problem with VNC, but still it's single user to me)
 

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2005, 05:44:02 PM »
Windows 2000/XP workstation works fine as a web server/email server/database server.  

Microsoft doesn't like it much but there really isn't much difference between Windows 2000 server and Windows 2000/XP professional when it comes to running stuff like this.  They want you to pay for a server license anytime you run server software.

I've run Mysql, IIs, Apache, MSDE (MSSQL Developer edition) and others with no issues in a production environment.
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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2005, 06:10:30 PM »
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XP isn't a single user OS.

Try to log in remotely (RDesktop) -> the current desktop user need to log out. I call that singleuser.

(Ok, you can workaround that particular problem with VNC, but still it's single user to me)


You've got some sort of head injury, don't you?

There are P L E N T Y of ways to grab remote desktop control without logging the current user off.   :roll: VNC is just one of them.

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2005, 06:22:12 PM »
@B00tDisk

Well, the injury must be all yours.

It's not about grabbing the desktop, but rather being able to remotely log in as user x, y and z (with different desktops/terminal) simultanously.

Only single user can use the XP machine at a time. Thus I consider it singleuser.

I'm sure there are some sort of hacks for this, but XP remote desktop doesn't allow this. It's one user at a time.
 

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2005, 07:06:51 PM »
@Piru

"Only single user can use the XP machine at a time. Thus I consider it singleuser."

That really doesn't matter when using XP as a server.  Very often you don't need interact with the desktop and when you do it's pretty unlikely that more than one person needs to do it at a time.

1 - Much of the server software can be managed remotely.  You can start and stop services, copy/edit files etc.  10 people can do this at a time easly.

2 - Things like databases have client tools to do admin and database management.

3 - If I remember correctly there are telnet servers available for Windows workstation.
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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2005, 08:02:28 PM »
There's this one...

Mercury Mail Server

Never used it though.

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2005, 11:23:02 PM »
@-BobW-

Ok, some good points there.

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If I remember correctly there are telnet servers available for Windows workstation.

Does it also come with usable shell or does it give you a MS-DOS shell thingie (==horror)?

The only half usable environment I've seen is Cygwin. But if you go there, why not just install bsd/linux for real anyway. :-)
 

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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
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Re: Free / Opensoucre mail server for xp
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2005, 11:35:01 PM »
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XP isn't a single user OS.

Try to log in remotely (RDesktop) -> the current desktop user need to log out. I call that singleuser.


That's because Remote Desktop is the light version of Terminal Services.

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vpop3 isn't free, but it is quite cheap, and IMO, good value for money.