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Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« on: February 02, 2005, 03:19:25 PM »
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Well, Mr Jackson has started his trial against child abuse. It all seems very fishy, that so many people (victims) are involved in this against a guy who has been linked with this sort of thing for years. What do you think?

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2005, 03:37:55 PM »
I really hope to god that he is innocent of these charges.  Not because i like him, because i don't, but because if someone who has done so much for children all over the world for so long is capable of doing such things to a child, then there is no hope for for ever stopping child abuse. :-(
 

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2005, 03:40:19 PM »
....and his music is good as well. Maybe i should dig 'em out again and listen to them before i have to trash 'em after the trial. :-(

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2005, 03:48:00 PM »
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....and his music is good as well. Maybe i should dig 'em out again and listen to them before i have to trash 'em after the trial. :-(

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His early music was good.  I can't say anything he released after 1989 is my cup of tea.

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 04:07:50 PM »
I agree with MDMA, I sincerely hope he's innocent because if he isn't then he's got away with it for so long.

On a side issue, he's clearly self-deluded having proclaimed that he suffers from Vitiligo (hence his white skin) and has denied having much in the way of cosmetic surgery.  That doesn't bode well for public perception of him, and I fear that if he proves to be innocent, many people won't believe it.

To have undergone so much cosmetic mutilation, he must have some serious self-image problems IMHO.
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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 04:15:05 PM »
The man is quite obviously mentally ill, and if he is guilty then he could very easily plead insanity and get away with it.

It's a horrible and messy situation.
 

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 04:29:11 PM »
Michael Jackson can afford the most expensive lawyers in the business.  The question is whether he'd allow vanity to damage his defence. My theory is that anyone who'd undergo that much cosmetic surgery wouldn't plead insanity for fear of damaging his public image even more - remember his legal bill won't be cheap and he'll need to sell some records (provided he's found innocent) to pay for the case.

Expect him to make himself out as a victim at some point during the trial...  I know I sound like a cynic, but I remember all the media furore during the 80's when he was supposed to sleep in an oxygen tent, have bought the skeleton of John Merrick had a chimp as a best pal etc and then released "Leave Me Alone" which featured them all in a video...
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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 04:38:28 PM »
Is he guilty? Well usually.. If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

They changed the law in California because of Jackson after the first molestation case was settled out of court for millions. Now there can be no such settlement, this is going to court. The police also claim to have rock solid evidence. This probably partially has to do with the kid being able to describe some abnormal feature of Jackson's penis.

This should be a slam dunk case, unless the jury is stacked with star struck fans like the abomination OJ trial :-x
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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2005, 04:41:59 PM »
I hope -- strictly for the sake of the children -- that he is innocent, but the reported "facts" do seem to mount up against him.  

Though I like his older music, I think Jackson is a deeply mentally disturbed child who desperately needs an older role model.  I have very little interest for most of their family, having resigned them to the same level of interest as yet another Paris Hilton clone.

I will admit however that at the age of 13, The Jackson 5 concert was the first concert I ever went to see. (October 6th, 1979, Huntsville, AL).  I walked up to the counter and paid for the concert myself with literally $13.50 in nickels, dimes, and quarters that I had saved for months -- much to the chagrin of the ticket lady.  It was the first case of my parents saying "if you want to go see them, you have to pay for it".  They didn't so much as give me a dime for popcorn, but it was my first real achievement growing up.

As such, whether or not Jackson is proven guilty of pedophilia in a court of law, I guess I'm a little sad to see how twisted someone with so much potential turned out.

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2005, 05:02:00 PM »
I don't doubt for a minute he's mentally ill.  However, that doesn't make him a paedophile.  

I'm somewhat struck by the symbolic loss of innocence in this case - both of Jackson's public persona as portrayed in the media and the idea that an adult can have a benevolent interest in a child.  It's a sign of the times.

His is certainly a tragic tale, but if he's guilty of the most disgusting crimes against those most vulnernable then I'll have no further sympathy for him.
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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2005, 05:02:52 PM »
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The police also claim to have rock solid evidence. This probably partially has to do with the kid being able to describe some abnormal feature of Jackson's penis.
yeah, like....maybe he's got one?

yuk, the whole thing is revolting. pardon me while i go vomit! :-(
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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2005, 05:14:00 PM »
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because of Jackson after the first molestation case was settled out of court for millions
so yes he is guilty, he is a child molester.
Why didn't they treat him for this after the case was settled?

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2005, 05:23:07 PM »
Well, we can't judge on what we don't know...  The first case was settled out of court, but we don't know what happened because it never came out in a court of law.

Having said that, handing over millions of dollars to someone who's accused you of abusing their child isn't reassuring of innocence.  

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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2005, 05:25:35 PM »
Can mass-murderers also settle their cases? :nervous:
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Re: Michael Jackson - Peter Pan or Paedophile?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2005, 05:28:46 PM »
Not now the California law's been changed, no.
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