potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:
If you read the forums, which I've glanced at, one user has gotten 100Mbit at half duplex to work.

Like I said.  You can set the NIC to 100mb/s full duplex if you want.  But, the bus can not support recieving at these speeds.  Especially since it is also shared with the memory cards, sram, RTC, etc.

how's the porting going

Well, I don't have the A/R usb or SD card adapters yet.  The latest version of PSO_Load doesn't even require PSO and can have you booting homebrew code in 10-15 seconds.

I believe you'll still need PSO to do the initial install on the SDCard, unless they've figured out the format.  (Or, if you have a mod chip of course...) But, good luck.  Make sure to set your PC to 10mb/s half duplex.  :-D

Keep laughing, btw, do you own an A1?

No.  But I'll keep laughing.  Spending ~$250 to get GC-Linux running on your GCN is enough entertainment...

[Louis Dias]

adolescent wrote:

I believe you'll still need PSO to do the initial install on the SDCard, unless they've figured out the format.  (Or, if you have a mod chip of course...) But, good luck.  Make sure to set your PC to 10mb/s half duplex.  :-D

Stop speading misinformation.

Keep laughing, btw, do you own an A1?

No.  But I'll keep laughing.  Spending ~$250 to get GC-Linux running on your GCN is enough entertainment...

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my net expenses will be ~$120 because I already own a GC w/Broadband adapter (BBA).  BTW I noticed you are selling this:

CSMK2 060/66MHz w/128M RAM $300
A2065 Ethernet NIC w/10bt transceiver $85

LOL!  You could just about have 2 full GC systems setup ready to run OS4/AROS/Linux with that money.  Funny, the GC has about 10 times the processing power of that accelerator at 1/6 of the cost.  Now I see where the bitterness comes from.  You have Nintendo-envy.    Oh goodness, I can't believe you'd run only a 10bt NIC, the horror! LOL

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[billt]

>Anyway, what is stopping you from releasing an official linux
>ATI FLipper driver for the GC? You obviously have the skills
>and contacts.

I've already talked about the time aspect of it all. I don't have any left for such a thing. Also, I'm not the only one involved in my current project, and others know a great deal about their parts than I do, and they aren't interested.

The sum total of everything I know about the ATI Flipper is the name of the chip and the name of the manufacturer, an dI think it was designed by another company that ATI bought. That's it. You can't make a driver with that kind of detailed knowledge. And if I'm right in thinking ATI bought another company to get this chip, it's not likely Radeon driver compatible.

I think ATI wouldn't give me info on Nintendo's chip. While ATI manufactures it, that doens't mean they have rights to give me information about the thing. I don't have any contacts at Nintendo. Considering the Liux web site you mentioned previously indicates they are afraid that official SDK or documentation holders under NDA could ruin the legality of their project, and I don't want to piss off Nintendo's and/or ATI's lawyers, I won't go there.


> Somehow it must be possible to make money off of linux products.

A lot of companies already do. But those are for things running on PC hardware. Look at Sony, they used to sell a Linux kit for PSX2 but they stopped. Why? Maybe it didn't pay off in the case of a games console.


Gack, IT admin is rebooting our network, back in a while...

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:
my net expenses will be ~$120 because I already own a GC w/Broadband adapter (BBA).  BTW I noticed you are selling this:

CSMK2 060/66MHz w/128M RAM $300
A2065 Ethernet NIC w/10bt transceiver $85

LOL!  You could just about have 2 full GC systems setup ready to run OS4/AROS/Linux with that money.  Funny, the GC has about 10 times the processing power of that accelerator at 1/6 of the cost.  Now I see where the bitterness comes from.  You have Nintendo-envy.    Oh goodness, I can't believe you'd run only a 10bt NIC, the horror! LOL

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I already have 2 full GC systems (one black GCN, and a Q), with BBA, SD, PSO, etc.  But, I use them for playing games (and/or MP3, VCD, DVD on the Q), not for some fantasy of making them into a computer.

As for the price.  You can do so much more with a big box classic Amiga than you can with a GC running Linux.  

Anyway, good luck.  I'm sure you'll find your Linux experience is worth the $$$.   :lol:

[Louis Dias]

adolescent wrote:

I already have 2 full GC systems (one black GCN, and a Q), with BBA, SD, PSO, etc.  But, I use them for playing games (and/or MP3, VCD, DVD on the Q), not for some fantasy of making them into a computer.

As for the price.  You can do so much more with a big box classic Amiga than you can with a GC running Linux.  

Anyway, good luck.  I'm sure you'll find your Linux experience is worth the $$$.   :lol:

Ah, so you own a gamecube (2 even) and not an A1...imagine that and how many other Amigas own GC's and not A1's...

The Q is way overpriced.  A GC is $99, a DVD player is $40, a Q - $3XX.  Insane.

Anyway, I work in IT again.  I've got 0 experience in Linux.  If I can get Linux on the GC, that's positive experience for me.  My PC's already got 2 1/2 verions of Windows on it not to mention all my emulators and db server, web server and development packages.  Offloading Apache and maybe MySQL and PHP to the GC will be nice for testing without slowing down my PC for everything else (IM, iMesh, email, etc...)  $120 for invaluable experience.  That's a steal.

[Louis Dias]

billt wrote:

A lot of companies already do. But those are for things running on PC hardware. Look at Sony, they used to sell a Linux kit for PSX2 but they stopped. Why? Maybe it didn't pay off in the case of a games console.

Well, we all know Sony is trying to get US Customs to consider the PS line as computers in order to pay less tariffs on importing them.

It's fine to release a Linux kit, but what could anyone do with it?  Did it include a PS2 optimized gcc compiler?  No apps = no sales.  I don't care for the PS2 and for all I know, the people who bought the Linux kit are surfing the web with their PS2's.

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

Ah, so you own a gamecube (2 even) and not an A1...imagine that and how many other Amigas own GC's and not A1's...

What does that matter?  20 million GCN owners aren't wishing they had OS4 or an A1.  The count is just one, you.

The Q is way overpriced.  A GC is $99, a DVD player is $40, a Q - $3XX.  Insane.

When I got the Q a few years ago, GCN's were $199 and DVD players were $100.  Of course, back then the Q was ~$450.  But, I got it because it's a neat looking box and a good collectors item.  However, even with it's added capability I still wouldn't think it was a computer.

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

billt wrote:

A lot of companies already do. But those are for things running on PC hardware. Look at Sony, they used to sell a Linux kit for PSX2 but they stopped. Why? Maybe it didn't pay off in the case of a games console.

Well, we all know Sony is trying to get US Customs to consider the PS line as computers in order to pay less tariffs on importing them.

Not at all.  This was a follow on to the successful Net Yaroze homebrew development system for the PS.

It's fine to release a Linux kit, but what could anyone do with it?  Did it include a PS2 optimized gcc compiler?  No apps = no sales.  I don't care for the PS2 and for all I know, the people who bought the Linux kit are surfing the web with their PS2's.

There is/was quite a scene for PS2 Linux.  I've seen a UAE port, ported emulators, games, etc.  After all, it's more of a computer (ie. USB, Firewire, 40GB HDD, 100Mbit NIC, VGA output).

To answer your questions, yes it did have PS2 gcc, headers, etc.  I don't know what apps you're refering to.  It's a dev kit for homebrews, so apps are there in the community, or you can write your own.  Surfing the web?  Not sure what to think about that.  Is that a good or bad thing?

[Animagic]

Can someone PLEASE LOCK THIS FORUM?

Look at the date it is created :
Posted on: 2005/1/31 15:22   :-o  :-o  :-o

GOD HAVE MERCY!!!!

I AM REALLY TIRED TO SEE IT ON THE FROND PAGE ALL THE TIME !!!!! :pissed:


PLEASE!!!!

thanx  :-P    

[Louis Dias]

Animagic wrote:
Can someone PLEASE LOCK THIS FORUM?

Look at the date it is created :
Posted on: 2005/1/31 15:22   :-o  :-o  :-o

GOD HAVE MERCY!!!!

I AM REALLY TIRED TO SEE IT ON THE FROND PAGE ALL THE TIME !!!!! :pissed:


PLEASE!!!!

thanx  :-P    

then don't post in it

I intend to keep doing status updates.  I'll turn my gc into some form of PC by the end of the summer.

[TheMagicM]

if the arguing keeps up there wont be a post to read.

[Louis Dias]

TheMagicM wrote:
if the arguing keeps up there wont be a post to read.

does this forum support locking out individual users from a thread?

[TheMagicM]

no but if they get too bothersome, I'll just lock their account.

[Louis Dias]

I'm no fan of censorship, however, trolls suck.

My next update should be in a couple of weeks when I've ordered the Action Replay Max Drive or something similar and the case mod and possibly a mod chip (qoob).

[KThunder]

i think everyone else has posted to this thread so i thought i would too. i dont really have an opinion, people can run amiga or try to run amiga or imagine running amiga on anything they want. aros, uae, and my amiga 3000 are good enough for me.

everybody be nice... ok?  ... please?

look at this for a while :banana:

[Louis Dias]

Update!

I should have my qoob Pro and case mod in a day or 2.

Nice article: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/04/01/warp_pipe.html

verifies whay I said about the 'Cube's rudimentary bios and being very open like programming a c64/128 or Amiga and yes they even mention Amiga in the article.

they've come a long way

how to install Linux, SNES9X, mfe, network drives: http://modthatcube.pxn-os.com/content/linux/index.html

realworld review of said modchip:
http://iso420.pxn-os.com/ngc/qoobprov1/index.htm

debunks some myths like the 10 MBit limit and 1.4GB limit on DVDs