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Offline X-ray

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2005, 10:50:43 PM »
@ Kenny

Kenny Richey didn't do himself any favours by being pissed out of his head and smoking hashish on the night of the fire. Even the defense attorney's opening statement pretty much describes Richey as a Chav.

"...We're going to show you a society here that accepts no responsibility; that lives for the joy of drinking alcohol; that lives for the joy of taking different types of drugs. And, I'm not exempting Kenny from that group either..."

He goes on (the defense attorney) to say that the people who were always partying together had no income other than support, and many of them had criminal records that he thought was a contributing factor in their income. (He wanted to discredit witnesses and use Richey's drunken state as a defense)

Perhaps Kenny got set a bad example by his brother:

"..Tom Richey is serving a 65-year sentence for shooting dead a shop assistant while high on drugs..."

from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4208175.stm

But the person who really needs her arse kicked is Hope Collins, who left her 2-year-old in Richey's care in the first place.

I'd like to know what the apparent 'flaws' in the original trial are, because I've read the first 70 pages of the transcript but the whole thing is 1334 pages  :-o

Would be nice to see where they went wrong, and go back to the original, just concentrating on the flaws.
 

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2005, 02:44:52 AM »
Ok this is going to get ugly -  :-P   (Stirs controversy and hides) :crazy:

No death penalty but abortion's OK ?

An individual commits a anus crime and is allowed to live.

A baby is put to death because of inconvenience.

Both knowingly kill.

But one does it out of convenience.

Something is wrong with this mental image ?   :-?  

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2005, 03:37:31 AM »
a fetus is not a baby
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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2005, 06:00:39 AM »
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a fetus is not a baby


When does the fetus become a baby? My daughter was born 6 weeks early, she certainly wasn't a fetus when she came out.
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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2005, 06:32:49 AM »
So when does a fetus become a baby?

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2005, 06:59:52 AM »
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a fetus is not a baby


When does the fetus become a baby? My daughter was born 6 weeks early, she certainly wasn't a fetus when she came out.
Except abortion at that late stage isn't legal in the UK afaik, so it can't be claimed that this would be viewed as "OK".

You might as well turn this into a vegetarian debate and say "why is it wrong to kill people, but okay to kill harmless animals?"
 

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2005, 07:15:30 AM »
@ Cecilia
"a fetus is not a baby"
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fe·tus    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fetes)
 n. pl. fe·tus·es
 *. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth.


If you respect human life, it's a baby.
If it's an inconvenience, it's a fetus.
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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2005, 07:35:11 AM »
And I can say that someone who eats vegetables "doesn't respect life"?

The important issue as I see it is whether a fetus has any level of sentience. This may be the case in later stages, but I do not see how this can be the case earlier on, so I disagree with the idea that all abortion is wrong, or comparable to murder.
 

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2005, 07:53:08 AM »
mdwh2, I believe you missed the operative word there. :-)
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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2005, 08:13:36 AM »
@ Wolfe

"...An individual commits a anus crime and is allowed to live..."

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What is 'a anus crime?'

Did you mean that, or did you mean heinous?
 

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2005, 09:32:29 AM »
Many thanks for the replies guys (and gals) :-)
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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2005, 09:46:42 AM »
I'm with X-ray on this one:

What's a "anus crime"?  Is it something committed after a vindaloo?
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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2005, 02:56:40 PM »
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@ Wolfe

"...An individual commits a anus crime and is allowed to live..."

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What is 'a anus crime?'



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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2005, 03:09:09 PM »
@Wolfe

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2005, 03:15:53 PM »
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@ Wolfe

"...An individual commits a anus crime and is allowed to live..."

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What is 'a anus crime?'

Did you mean that, or did you mean heinous?


"God hates fags" eh?

Send em to the chair for their henious anus crimes! ;-)
 

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Re: Death Penalty - Your Comments
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 01, 2005, 07:51:13 PM »
@KennyR

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4219627.stm


Woah Man! I had no idea. :-o

After seeing what you've been through I can really understand why your pent up frustrations often result in vitriolic outbursts.

Did you receive counselling afterwards? Those (Bleeps)have a lot to answer for :pissed:

Err, just a little question if you don't mind. do they have broadband or dial-up on death row?

I jest! I jest! :-P

Oh yeah. about the topic.

Hundreds of thousands of innocent people are given the death penalty all the time but their lives have no significance. It isn't reported or even discussed. They are just brushed away as 'collateral damage'
Where's the justice in that :-?