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i want to build amiga with ppc
« on: January 20, 2005, 02:38:29 PM »
Hi i have been out of the amiga game since 95 and quite frakly i want to build a new one after kicking around with my pc xp 3000 1024 ram fx5900 gfx.I tried AIAB (WINUAE) and got the old fealing back.so someone must help me with this what do i need to get.Money is no big issue.I thought about 1200 tower with Mediator PCI 1200 SX.Blizzard PPC/060,or shark plus propper gfx what do i get and were do i get best prises, since i live in norway i have do get web shop who can ship to here. any answers will be ariciated .and one more thing is it possible to use pegasos os on ppc for amiga for instance on a 1200. thx .


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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2005, 02:49:59 PM »
@Adonay

Welcome back to the fold... :-)

If you want to get a kick-ass Amiga then you've a few options open to you.  You can of course take an existing A1200 and mod it to the max, but it will cost a small fortune.  

Or you could buy an AmigaOne or Pegasos, which will be more powerful and probably cheaper, BUT won't run old Amiga software that bangs the chipset directly eg demos, most games, Deluxe Paint etc.  Oh, and OS4 - which is the PPC native version of Amiga OS is still in production and is expected for the AmigaOne and CPPC cards "when it's ready (tm)" (apologies to Hyperion who are working their collective bits off on the project as I type).

The Mediator SX isn't a bad idea, but I'd wait a month or so and see what their Dragon expansion is like.  It replaces the Mediator, allows six PCI and one AGP slot to be added to your A1200 and best of all features a Coldfire 233Mhz CPU.

The full spec is discussed elsewhere, although Elbox claim that the Dragon will allow their vapour-esque SharkPPC to be fitted and will run OS4.  The jury is somewhat skeptical, but it would be the ultimate system for bridging the classic and new generation Amiga ranges.

My own advice?

Log onto www.amibench.org and find yourself an Elbox Power (or Winner) Tower for an A1200.  You'll have plently of room for expansion and you can fit a 68040 card for cheap performance in the meantime.  I got mine for £35 and am pleased to bits with it, five years on.

Next up, you'll need a buffered IDE interface and you'll be able to plug in hard drives, CD ROMs etc.  

As for shops, there's plenty to choose from.  Elbox have an online shop, as do Power Computing and Eyetech.  Check the A.org directory for details.

Good luck...
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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 03:02:37 PM »
Thanx a buch that helpt a lot i will try to get a new ami1200 board right away an put some money into it.
this can aktualy be the thing i have been waiting for.
Is there anny possibility to run dvds on amiga and is there some kind of 3d rendering program for amiga that reminds of 3dmax..?
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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2005, 03:17:38 PM »
pfff, maybe new Amiga's like Pegasos (II) run dvd's and divx and do some great stuff with 3d, but it's not a thing I'd like to do with an (upgraded) A1200
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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2005, 03:36:13 PM »
Read the article on Dragon ColdFire on elbox.com. i think i can wait a few days or weeks untill this.Could be a cool uppgrade for amiga 1200 not to forget that you can also plugg in a ppc addon later on. Seems like this is what i will wait for .Also nice since i got a ati 9700 gfx thrown away in a drawer back home. Ahh love this,found out my brother have an old 1200 to with 1230 blizzard idfix got it for free ,at least i can fool around with acoupple of days.


 
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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2005, 03:41:06 PM »
DVD is pretty much beyond the classic line, although the Dragon is supposed to have enough poke to show a DVD movie via a suitable graphics card.  Not sure if a pokey PPC card can cope or not?

AGA is pretty much dog slow for anything meaningful these days, so a GFX card is a must have for a serious user.  With PCI (Mediator etc) you can have a Voodoo Banshee, 3, 5 etc or a ViRGE card, but ATI is likely to be adopted soon judging by Elbox and Amiga's blurb.

The only rendering program I know of is Lightwave, but there are others.  
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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2005, 05:10:45 PM »
What happned to ACKs PPC-accelerators?
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45781
Anybody have any news?
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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2005, 05:29:49 PM »
Nope, but "hope to ship in Q1 2005" and "prototypes are running Linux" are encouraging snippets.

I would very much like to see this project come to fruition, it's good to know that the Amiga platform inspires no end of innovators.

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Re: i want to build amiga with ppc
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2005, 05:58:31 PM »
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What happned to ACKs PPC-accelerators?
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45781
Anybody have any news?


Waiting for news myself.  Soooooo tempted to get a Dragon though.

Money burns holes in my pockets.  Won't be long before I splash out. Trying to keep a hold on it!!!