Exciting but cryptic announcement for AMIX enthusiasts

[Failure]

Yeah, seen that one.  If you get that error, make a build directory in there, and run configure from there.  ie:

mkdir build && cd build && ../configure +your config arguments

[Dalamar]

I'm running that as requested (though I changed build to buildit cause there is already a build dir), but I can see this happening over and over during configure:

../configure[1698]: pwd: cannot access parent directories

Configure is still running though.

[Failure]

Hiya, are you trying to run all your configures in sh?  Try running them in ksh.  I seem to recall having better luck with the "can't do cd ." with that in 2.03.  I will try the NTP stuff once I get done failing at compiling Lynx :-)

One of the "exciting" things about AMIX is that things fail to compile in different ways based on what compiler I use.  It's actually rather amusing.

[Dalamar]

I have noticed that too.  I did update the Wiki for NTP.  It looks like it needs automake 1.7 which needs Perl5.  Ug.  I'm out of my league on this one. :lol:

[gregthecanuck]

You won't believe this but I just found my AcuCOBOL demo disk for AMIX.

Here is what is on the label:

     acucobol/85
     COMMODORE AMIGA 3000UX
     Evaluation Version 1.5.4
     CPIO -cB format
     Low Density Disk #1

Anybody interested?

[Failure]

Dalamar wrote:
I have noticed that too.  I did update the Wiki for NTP.  It looks like it needs automake 1.7 which needs Perl5.  Ug.  I'm out of my league on this one. :lol:

Dude, what were you doing?  Configure ran fine for me?

Compilation is progressing and I expect it to complete since it did on 2.03, hopefully the result will work better (2.03 compiled one could not figure out DNS names)

@greg

That's really interesting, I was under the impression that there was zero third-party software for AMIX.  Do you think you could upload that to the wiki site for us to play with?

[gregthecanuck]

Failure wrote:

That's really interesting, I was under the impression that there was zero third-party software for AMIX.  Do you think you could upload that to the wiki site for us to play with?

Unfortunately at the moment I don't have my A3000UX running with AMIX.  On top of that I haven't yet found the instructions or possible disk 2/3?  Once I have the whole kit/kaboodle I can mail it off to you.

I will pipe back in here with an update.  I am slowly unpacking my way through a *mountain* of stuff, part of which is ancient Amiga odds and ends.


Cheers!

[Failure]

@greg

No rush, I don't even know Cobol...although back in the day I had a Cobol compiler for C64.

@dal

Well I need to recompile it, because it thought I was cross-compiling and it prepended "amix-" to all the filenames.  It's because I spec'd build/host/target as "amix" to configure, which works for most everything, but it detected them as "m68k-unknown-sysv4".  I guess I'll just spec the full m68k-cbm-sysv4 from now on.  But take a look at this:

[color=0000ff]
# ./amix-ntpdate timex.peachnet.edu
Looking for host timex.peachnet.edu and service ntp
host found : ns2.usg.edu
27 Jan 09:17:09 amix-ntpdate[29836]: step time server 131.144.4.9 offset 31622915.058509 sec
[/color]

It does DNS lookups properly :-D

[DethKnight]

am I reading that avatar correctly?
9697 days uptime?

(if so, that has my 15 hours beat by a certain margin) :-D

[Failure]

Yes, 9697 days...see, my 3000UX has no battery, so when it comes up it thinks it is sometime in 1970.  I reset the date using the date command, and AMIX's rather simple-minded uptime mechanism just went ahead and assumed the system had been up that long :-)  A reboot sets things right again, as long as I don't turn the power off.

[Dalamar]

@Failure

Perhaps I don't know what I'm doing...  :-)  

I'm out of town (actually near your coast) so nothing will be happening with my progress for a few days.  I'll try again when I have time.  

[Failure]

When you get back, you'll have bash 3.0 waiting for you.  I fixed some bad defines and it compiled just now (literally 2 mins ago).  Woo!

No such luck with gcc beyond 2.7.2.3, all have assembler errors building stage1 libgcc2.a.  And that's after I fixed collect2.c.

*edit*

[color=0000ff]gcc -L./builtins -L./lib/readline -L./lib/readline -L./lib/glob -L./lib/tilde -L
./lib/malloc -L./lib/sh    -O2 -o bash shell.o eval.o y.tab.o general.o make_cmd
.o print_cmd.o  dispose_cmd.o execute_cmd.o variables.o copy_cmd.o error.o expr.
o flags.o jobs.o subst.o hashcmd.o hashlib.o mailcheck.o trap.o input.o unwind_p
rot.o pathexp.o sig.o test.o version.o alias.o array.o arrayfunc.o braces.o brac
ecomp.o bashhist.o bashline.o  list.o stringlib.o locale.o findcmd.o redir.o pco
mplete.o pcomplib.o syntax.o xmalloc.o -lbuiltins -lsh -lreadline -lhistory -lte
rmcap -lglob -ltilde -lmalloc lib/intl/libintl.a   -lsocket -lnsl -ldl
ls -l bash
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      734308 Jan 29 13:43 bash
size bash
501144 + 28364 + 22112 = 551620
root@motoko:/usr/src/bash-3.0/build# ./bash
bash-3.00#[/color]

Had to fix the bolded thing, defined getwd/getcwd wrong for AMIX.

[Failure]

Replying to myself...AMIX uses a deprecated trap designation in /etc/profile so CTRL-C stops working with bash 3.0, I added a section like this for bash shells:

[color=0000ff]if [ "$BASH" ]
then
  PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ '
  trap - 2 3
fi
[/color]

Setting it this way keeps the deprecated form intact for the old shells.  The PS1 line isn't necessary, it sets my prompt to "Debian style" the way I likes it :-)

[Failure]

Well, wanted to resurrect this thread again to let you know that I was able to compile a web browser (Lynx) on AMIX after fixing a few compile problems.
In fact I am using it to enter this post.  So, I can verify that amiga.org is ok for text-only browsers :-)
I have been able to get lots of new stuff compiled for 2.1, but a web browser was something I really wanted.  Woo!

[ltstanfo]

Failure,

All this talk about AMIX has made my interested to see if I can convert my old A3000 into a UX machine.  I have my old AMIX tapes and floppy disks but never got around to trying to install them.  I also have an old A3070 drive that came with the AMIX set.

At the moment, I am trying to resurrect my old A3000 (it's been in the closet for quite some time..no battery damage) and plan to load WB3.1 on it.  Is there anything else I need to do before I attempt to load AMIX?

Thanks,
ltstanfo

[Failure]

Hey, well no not really in your case.  If you can make a new tape (or verify yours still works) before you install you can save yourself a lot of grief.  I actually made three copies before attempting it myself.  You may want to run a cleaning tape through the drive too...mine was filthy.

IIRC, the install script won't go stomp on AmigaDOS partitions, but be careful during the install process :-)

As an aside, there has been some behind the scenes activity on my end re: AMIX.  I have the contents of the mmhart.com site (manuals, etc), as well as the X11R5 patches for AMIX, and a variety of other things.  Another individual has provided scripts to create install tapes from Linux (verified working).  He is going to help me revamp the site a little bit, and for my part I plan to get the files uploaded by this weekend.